Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs about homosexuality


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was KEEP. Rje 13:15, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

List of songs about homosexuality
Wikipedia seems to be stiffening their standards against listcruft.
 * Delete as per the AFDs that people have been nominating on song lists. --Nintendude 15:15, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Bad faith nomination, WP:POINT refers.  (aeropagitica)    (talk)   15:34, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep — I guess there are a lot of people who might actually be interested in such a list. — N-true 16:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Can you soure that? --Crossmr 17:28, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete We could make a lot of lists about a lot of things. I see this making a great blog post, or maybe an article or faq on a gay and lesbian website. I don't see this having encyclopedic value --Crossmr 17:28, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete: agree with Crossmr, "List of x's about y" is usually not encyclopedic in my opinion. N-true: lots of people might be interested in lots of things, and yet not all of them are necessarily encyclopedic. Abstain LjL 17:42, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Categorize or delete and refer User:Nintendude to WP:POINT. TheProject 19:15, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - narrow enough list. I'd also support categorizing. And once again send Nintendude a copy of WP:POINT. 23skidoo 19:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. How is this list listcruft? See List guideline and Lists (stand-alone lists). Hyacinth 19:48, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: List guideline doesn't talk about what's acceptable in a list, and Lists is very vague on the topic. However, see Listcruft, noting that it is not an official guideline (but is linked to by the former two guidelines); you'll probably find the stuff it lists is still kind of subjective, but I'm sure you'll agree that, by its token, this article can be considered listcruft by some. LjL
 * Question: Explain it to me. How so? Hyacinth 20:34, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The list was created just for the sake of having such a list
 * The list is of interest to a very limited number of people
 * The list is unencyclopaedic, i.e. it would not be expected to be included in an encyclopaedia.
 * You'll find that, while quite subjective (that's why it's not a guideline I suppose), the above points could certainly be considered by some to apply to this article. LjL
 * Thanks. Hyacinth 08:58, 21 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep Significant social topic and how it's addressed in music is of interest. CanadianCaesar Cæsar is turn’d to hear 20:11, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: So is beer, so are cars, so are a million other things. That doesn't mean that a list of songs about them has any encyclopedic value. --Crossmr 20:28, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep - It is interesting to note how few songs that achieve mainstream success deal with the topic because sex is so fundamental to the human condition and the acceptance of homosexuality is one of the chief social issues of the late-twentieth and early twenty-first century. It is conceivable that someone might have an interest in the subject (homosexuality in popular song) and that such a list could prove very helpful for them. Cedars 03:50, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, reasonably short list with subsections that wouldn't work well as a category. Crypticfirefly 04:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, exactly per LjL. Stifle (talk) 17:15, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, interesting as useful, as said above. --Andromeda 17:47, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep: another nomination in bad faith and WP:POINT. --User:BrownHairedGirl (talk • contribs) 16:28, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename to List of songs about homosexuality or bisexuality. -Sean Curtin 03:36, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, hopelessly incomplete, a category might be more appropriate. &#x266b; This old man, he played six, he played knick-knack on my stick... &#x266a; Ewlyahoocom 20:36, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep — List should be more complete, but, believe it or not, this sort of thing is actually QUITE useful for writers and researchers... and I second or third or fourth the Bad faith nomination comment.
 * Strong keep I suggest the nominator look up the definition of listcruft. Beno1000 23:54, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong keep I suggest that it be updated. The information is vital to the gay community, who struggle to identify with and relate to mainstream culture.  Accessing specific music celebrating homosexuality is therefore extremely validating.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.