Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs featured on The Office (US TV series) (second nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Sr13 00:17, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

List of songs featured on The Office (US TV series)

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The previous AfD on this song listed closed as "no consensus". DRV overturned narrowly that closure for a variety of reasons, including the conflicting result of the UK version of the Office songlist AfD, which resulted in deleted. The matter is returned to AfD for new consideration. This is a procedural listing, so I abstain. Xoloz 01:35, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete as an indiscriminate collection of information. This is certainly far more appropriate to a fansite, which could be linked to from the main article. —dustmite 01:57, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep and I respectfully disagree with Xoloz's interpretation that there was any sort of agreement at DRV for overturning this and relisting. This was overturned on the grounds that, among other things, the companion list for the UK was deleted.  I am not convinced the parallel is sufficient.  While critically acclaimed, the UK series only ran for something like 12 episodes.  The US show is considerably more popular.  This information is fairly easily verifiable, what's more it's accurate.  As pointed out in the first discussion, the music is integral to the show.  As such the list is not "indiscriminate" or "loosely related" and again, I gently encourage people to look up the word indiscriminate in a dictionary before citing it as justifciation.  Also, the notion of precedence is not ironclad -- a list about The O.C. was kept at Articles_for_deletion/List_of_songs_in_The_O.C.  I wouldn't argue that the music of The Office is as integral as the music of The O.C., but there is in fact a precedence to keep such lists.  Finally, per WP:LIST this is good for both information and navigation. --JayHenry 02:07, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - for the same reason I nominated it in the first place, Wikipedia is not a directory of loosely-associated topics. These songs have nothing in common beyond happening to have been used in an episode of a TV series. I don't believe that it's integral to the series that, for instance, "Jingle Bells" was heard at the office Christmas Party in episode 16 instead of, for instance, "Grandma Got Run Over By a Reindeer" or "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" or that the show would have been markedly different had "Brick House" been playing at Hooters in episode 18 instead of "Tempted." The article itself notes that the songs are "background music" which argues against their supposed vital role in the series and that they are "difficult to identify," meaning there are WP:V and WP:OR problems. This is no different from the deleted list of songs played at the Bada Bing club. As far as precedent goes with the keeping of the O.C. article, precedent is stronger for deleting this sort of article, with the deletion of the aforementioned Bada Bing list, the list for the UK Office, the list for House, the list for Skins and other recently deleted song lists for things like having a title with a phone number in it. Otto4711 04:14, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Can we get rid of this thing already? The songs should be included in the articles for the individual episodes. This list, like the similar lists that have already been deleted, is a nonnotable intersection of topics. Deor 05:44, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. I can appreciate both that this show is quite popular, and notable, and that the music may be "integral" to the show (though I haven't seen a sourced claim to that effect, it is a feasible claim).  However, neither of those is a reason this information cannot be presented within the main article.  Further, being "integral" to a notable TV show does not, itself, make a list of songs notable.  No argument has yet convinced me that this information requires its own article. Charlie 08:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Otto4711 above. If necessary the soundtrack can be noted in individual episode articles. Hut 8.5 10:42, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Charlie Gimme danger 13:30, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, as it amounts to nothing more than a non-encyclopedia trivia list. Tarc 15:52, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT as mentioned above. What songs were heard/hummed/sung over the course of the series is neither pertinent to the information about the series, nor is it encyclopedic information.  I disagree th at this info can be moved back in to the parent article, it is no more useful or encyclopedic there than it is sticking out here on its own.  Ark yan  &#149; (talk) 16:10, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Jay Henry. Matthew 10:50, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete if the songs are soooooo important, squeeze them into the article and delete some of the less important stuff to make room if necessary. Carlossuarez46 17:37, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete there is no encyclopaedic subject "songs featured on The Office", the basis for the list is indiscriminate. The term "featured" is also problematic: songs on a soundtrack are not necessarily integral with or even related to the plot, they can just be background, we'd need a reliable source for these featuring rather than just being played. Guy (Help!) 17:43, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.