Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs of Oklahoma


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was No concensus (default keep). JERRY talk contribs 03:33, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

List of songs of Oklahoma

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Indiscriminate list of songs whose only common bond is that they mention Oklahoma or have it in the title somewhere. None of these songs have any other common bond, so this list violates WP:NOT, not to mention the utter lack of sourcing. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 04:15, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Life, Liberty, Property (talk) 04:19, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - per WP:NOT. Even following some of the songs that had articles found Oklahoma connections to be unsourced. LonelyBeacon (talk) 04:25, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Partial merge to Music of Oklahoma. Most of these, admittedly, aren't notable.  We all know "O-klahoma" from the musical, and "Okie From Muskogee" and Fastball's "Sooner or Later", but you don't HAVE to put in everything.  Mandsford (talk) 04:46, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete As random list of info Mbisanz (talk) 10:34, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, just barely, since List of songs about California and List of songs about Alabama both of which show that this article could be better. However the name would need to be changed to List of songs about Oklahoma, since it is not clear what we are to make of the definition of "of" here, as Clinton might have put it. Lobojo (talk) 15:39, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.   -- the wub  "?!"  23:34, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.   -- the wub  "?!"  23:34, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Oklahoma-related deletion discussions.   -- the wub  "?!"  23:35, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. The Smithsonian Institution classifies its collection of music Americana by state (here), and if it's good enough for the Smithsonian it's good enough for Wikipedia.  The list is not indiscriminate at all.  It's criterion for inclusion is that a song is about the state of Oklahoma, or geographical locations therein.  That's a rather distinct and small amount of music.  Oklahoma is a rather out of the way place that people do not think of often.  Residents are keenly aware of songs that are about their state, and it helps define the culture of the state internally and to the outside world.  Hence, it is an encyclopedic and notable subject.  There is a similar article, [[Music of Oklahoma], but that is different.  Both issues are important - the indigenous music, and also what musicians nationwide say about Oklahoma.  Becuase there is very little in the state by way of a music industry, most songs get sung about Oklahoma by expatriates and transplants, not in Oklahoma. Wikidemo (talk) 00:16, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * If wikipedia listed all the songs already, then listing by such sub-classification might be OK. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Well we have to start somewhere, remember wikipedia is incomplete! Lobojo (talk) 17:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. Too much original research, too many entries are not notable (do not have their own articles).  The intersection of song and state is too random. If the content was notable, then it could be merged to Oklahoma, but it's not.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Rudget . 14:36, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge with Music of Oklahoma, per Mansford. Mr Senseless (talk) 14:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and move per Lobojo and Wikidemo. The list is discriminate -- the common bond is that all the songs are about a specific place. Including a song with "Oklahoma" or "Okie" in its title or lyrics is not original research -- it is primary information where the song is the source (similar to a plot summary taken from a film). Bláthnaid  14:59, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per Lobojo, Wikidemo and Blathnaid. Circeus (talk) 17:47, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - indiscriminate list. Addhoc (talk) 18:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per Addhoc. D.M.N. (talk) 18:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. No criterion, NOT#INFO. Cool Hand Luke 00:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


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