Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs played at dances

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page, if it exists; or after the end of this archived section. The result of the debate was delete. Sjakkalle (Check!)  29 June 2005 13:20 (UTC)

List of songs played at dances
So useless a list as to defy description. Denni &#9775; 03:47, 2005 Jun 18 (UTC)


 * Delete This could be 90 kilobites long and nowhere near complete. Useless and unencyclopedic. Howabout1 Talk to me!  04:02, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unmaintainable list. JamesBurns 04:14, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per JamesBurns.Splash 04:19, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per Howabout1. - DS1953 04:22, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete This belongs on ITunes, not Wiki! Rocky
 * Delete: It would be every song, eventually. Even Metal Machine Music will be played at some dance somewhere. Geogre 05:05, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Done it. (Not for very long, admittedly. . . . . ) Soundguy99 05:42, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oh, and the Arkansas thing. What I meant was that there might be a song played at a dance that was played at no other dances. Howabout1 Talk to me! 02:21, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete -- not encyclopedic. - Longhair | Talk 08:34, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per all of above. Nestea 11:39, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, I've heard all sorts of music at school dances. This is never going to be complete, especially when you realize Wikipedia is an international effort, which means this should also include songs only known in specific countries other than the US (which I assume the author originated). Not all countries have proms. - Mgm|(talk) 12:59, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to pleonasm. Delete. Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; 14:59, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. List could contain every song ever recorded. -- BD2412 talk 16:08, 2005 Jun 18 (UTC)\
 * Keep. Useful and fully complete list of each and every song ever played at any dance. Ever. This must be why I hate dancing. -R. fiend 20:28, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to think what sort of dances one would hear the songs Rock of Ages, Abide With Me, Te Deum, Jerusalem, Agnus Dei, Libera me, and Ani Maamin at. Uncle G 22:14, 2005 Jun 18 (UTC)
 * Okay. Every non-religious song could be listed here. And how are we supposed to find out what song some 100-student middle school in Arkansas played six years ago. Howabout1 Talk to me!  22:47, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * I doubt that every non-religious song could be listed here. Paul McCartney's We All Stand Together seems unlikely to have ever been played at a dance, for example, it being in triple time.  Terence Trent D'Arby's As Yet Untitled doesn't even have a beat.  Furthermore: What makes you think that this article requires you to find out what a 100-student middle school in Arkansas played six years ago? The only requirement, given the page as it stands, is that one be able to verify whether the song is played at dances, not whether it was played at a specific dance.  There are plenty of references to pick from that make such verification exceedingly easy.  Google Web turns up hundreds of lists of songs played at dances that one can use for verification.  Here are just three:
 * songs played at wedding dances
 * Salsa dance songs
 * Mission Dance song list
 * If, as it appears to be, your objection here is that the contents of such a list would be unverifiable because it would be impossible to verify that a song listed was in fact played at dances, your objection is highly flawed. Uncle G 01:42, 2005 Jun 19 (UTC)
 * Summary so far:
 * List could contain every song ever recorded. &mdash; False. We've already turned up several songs, possibly whole classes of songs, that have been recorded but that wouldn't be on the list.
 * Every non-religious song could be listed here. &mdash; False. Even some non-religious songs aren't songs played at dances. I've provided some examples of those, too.
 * We'd have to find out what some 100-student middle school in Arkansas played six years ago. &mdash; False. We only need to find out whether a song is played at dances.
 * Uncle G 01:42, 2005 Jun 19 (UTC)
 * Okay, you're right. All I'm saying is that while many lists on wikipedia cannot have all their items listed, this is the epitome of that. Also, as I said in my original comment, this is useless. Who would ever want to know if a song was played at a dance. I thought about that for a few minutes, and the only time I could think of was someone coordinating a dance. In light of your argument, I changed my vote from strong delete to just delete. Howabout1 Talk to me! 02:18, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-encyclopedic, and could get infinitely long with non-notable songs. --Idont Havaname 04:23, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Until the author has exhaustively checked every dance that has ever occurred and listed all the songs that have been played there. (Don't forget Hail to the Chief which is played as dances where the US president is) DJ Clayworth 05:46, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Jonathunder 15:50, 2005 Jun 19 (UTC)
 * Delete. This would make a good website, maybe even a humor book (who in high school in the 90s didn't dance to "Oh What A Night" by Frankie Valle and the Four Seasons at least once per dance?) but it is not encyclopedic. Haikupoet 04:39, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Who in high school in the 90s didn't dance to Oh What a Night? Me :-). Delete Aecis 07:34, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete - would extend to infinity to include every possible song, including religious ones because "dances" do not have to mean only school dances and the like. Have you ever seen a modern dance performance? Some dancers intentionally dance to music that was not written for it. - Skysmith 08:58, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Insanity! &mdash; Trilobite (Talk) 20:40, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. I would like to vote delete on gut feeling, but I can't find good, solid criteria on which to base it. That's not to say this list doesn't have serious problems, as others pointed out. Are lists we find on the web credible references? Can we ever verify a given song was not played at a dance, in other words, is this list verifiable at all? If they are references, should we mention them in the list or can we leave it to the reader? As others have pointed out, is there any point  to listing every song played at some dance somewhere? Is that knowledge? Any song can be played at a dance, what does it matter? You could be interested in popular music or dance music or even popular dance music, but a list of songs played at dances? What's dance music, anyway? Should we include gavottes? No? Contemporary music only? What's that, then? Come to think of it, what's a "dance", actually? And what qualifies as a "dance" internationally? JRM · Talk 21:02, 2005 Jun 21 (UTC)
 * I think what we have here is someone who vastly underestimated the potential size of the list. What it comes down to is that it's a pretty meaningless and overly broad category. Haikupoet 02:35, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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