Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs recorded by Kreator


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Wizardman 03:16, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

List of songs recorded by Kreator

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What's the point of this list? How encyclopedic, relevant or informative a list of songs by an artist really is? Malconfort (talk) 19:19, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:37, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:37, 14 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Rhetorical questions do not make for a sound deletion rationale (if deletion is actually what you're asking for, instead of just expressing how you don't understand why this list exists). We have 250 articles in Category:Lists of songs by recording artists, and AFDs have gone both ways, so there is clearly no rule or consensus against having any such list. So please explain why this band should or shouldn't have one, or this AFD should be speedy closed for failure to advance a deletion argument. postdlf (talk) 17:10, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep I admit bias as I'm the creator of this page. There are many other lists of songs on Wikipedia and I felt like Kreator warrented their own list. Per WP:LISTV the list has to have some usefulness, which this list does. Someone might know the title of a song, but don't know what album it was from and thus would go to this list to determine that information. The list of songs was too long to be placed in the main article, which is one of the reasons cited that a list is listcruft and also a reason why many cite that there should be a separate list. Also note that this has been discussed before. Pinkkeith (talk) 13:12, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment only. This is merely a laundry list of songs recorded by an artist. It contains no further information other than the album the song appears on. Lists of songs by artist, writer, production etc are welcome, but there has to be purpose. I recommend that Pinkkeith checks out some of the featured lists and sees how this list can be improved. I shall sit on the fence, but can be persuaded to go to keep with some additional work. --Richhoncho (talk) 13:38, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * First I realize this is only a comment, but I don't think because an article or a list is not up to featured standards is a reason for deletion. Pinkkeith (talk) 15:56, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Michaelzeng7 (talk) 19:03, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete I think this fails the purposes of a list. In the category Category:Kreator songs there are only two songs (ignoring the redirects), so this is essentially a list of two notable items. If they had dozens and dozens of notable songs (IE they had articles for them), then this would pass the notability for having a stand-alone list (Every entry meets the notability criteria for its own non-redirect article in the English Wikipedia.). Fancruft at the moment and unlikely to be anything else.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 08:34, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
 * See, ? This is how you make a deletion argument that actually addresses the specific article. postdlf (talk) 16:47, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * There are a number of lists that don't have any singles with an article (such as List of songs recorded by Fuck the Facts). I don't believe that the lack of an article for a single is a reason to delete a list of songs. Pinkkeith (talk) 15:56, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFF. That list is just terrible list-cruft and certainly fails WP:SAL too.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 17:44, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Kreator discography. -- Whpq (talk) 16:43, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * As the nominator, I think Lugnuts' comments are a complement and explanation for my questionings. This list should be deleted at best.--Malconfort (talk) 04:04, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete, should be in a discography section of the article. Stifle (talk) 18:10, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.