Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs that reference Rudolf Hess


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 11:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

List of songs that reference Rudolf Hess
Probably the most bizzare list I've ever seen a new user start on Wikipedia to say the least. Not all the songs support the Nazi Rudolf Hess, but I really can't see an overwhelming need for this list and it some of the more notable artist's songs can easily be merged back into the main article for Hess. Fails: WP:NOT --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  14:50, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. I agree with this ( very well-reasoned ) nom completely.  Merge the more notable songs back into Hess's article (if they're not already there).  I agree with the nom that this is a violation of WP:NOT.  I can see no reason for keeping this article.  Srose   (talk)  14:59, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Slowmover 15:18, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Neutral I generally despise lists like this, but I feel that this one could, theoretically, be a good article. For such a well-known and controversial figure, the "Hess in pop culture" section in his article is somewhat slim. This list could perhaps be made more encyclopedic if it was split into sections, such as "songs that support Hess" and "songs that object to Hess's practices". It's also interesting to note how many significant bands have referenced Hess. I can't, in good conscience, vote keep, as the article is in violation of WP:NOT. However, I think there's enough potential in the article to try to expand and improve upon it. -- Kicking222 15:18, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as crufty as listcruft gets. Batmanand | Talk 15:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as an excessive list. Wickethewok 15:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, nom has it exactly right. At best this could be merged to Rudolf Hess...--Isotope23 16:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Nintendude list. Danny Lilithborne 17:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, random. Gazpacho 18:09, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is not the place for indiscriminate collections of information, however prepossessing they may be. Another concern is vagueness.  What passes as a reference, here?  One item on the list, Joy Division's "Warsaw", doesn't actually mention Hess by name, but only his prison identification number.  Where do we draw the line?  Maybe a handful of the most "notable" references to Hess could go in the pop culture section of his article. (And I see the Joy Division song is already in there.)  Starry  Eyes  22:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge. What useful purpose is served by deleting this article?  Its a tad eccentric, but its likely to appeal to many who would otherwise access a Rudholf Hess entry in the first place; merge it with the main Hess article.  Compare the numer of songs which reference Hess to other prominent German Nazis, such as Joseph Goebbels, Martin Boorman, Adolf Eichmann, or Albert Speer, and its clear that Hess generates an interest within pop culture far in excess of other leading NSDAP figures, thus justifying the continued existence of this list (albeit ideally within the context of being merged back into the main Hess article).  KevinOKeeffe 07:00, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge to Rudolf Hess per KevinOKeeffe's reasoning. --Kurt Shaped Box 15:05, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment: The Hess cult is considered fairly important to 'integrationist' neo-Nazi organisations, particularly neo-Nazi bands. Someone's made an effort here; perhaps this should be expanded, or merged into an article about extreme right-wing music rather than the Hess article. Hornplease 05:08, 21 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.