Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of speeches by Martin Luther King


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Nomination withdrawn. Non-admin closure. (non-admin closure) D ARTH P ANDA duel 20:37, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

List of speeches by Martin Luther King

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Per WP:LINKFARM, Wikipedia is not a mirror or a repository of links. This list is a mirror of links to the speeches at MLK Online. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 04:00, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Why do people always title their articles "List of..."? Is this to prevent anyone from adding encyclopedic information to their lists? Do people just like lists? That being said, I think an article on "Speeches of Martin Luther King Jr." (and by the way this should be retitled with Jr., since Martin Luther King's speeches aren't notable) is a great resource for the encyclopedia. Keep — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChildofMidnight (talk • contribs)
 * Keep but rename to Speeches by Martin Luther King, as stated above. The topic just has to be notable, and there are no doubt dozens of books that can be used as sources. - Richard Cavell (talk) 10:19, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - of high encyclopaedic value. Wily D 14:33, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I believe the best thing to do is make an article called something like Speeches by Martin Luther King and include this list as well as the articles How Long, Not Long and I've Been to the Mountaintop and redirect the existing articles. A short description of I Have a Dream should also be included with a link to the main article. Duffbeerforme (talk) 15:37, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - very notable, but needs major editing, as suggested by others. Proper inline cites and more descriptions would be a start.--Boffob (talk) 16:05, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename Sermons and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr. as suggested by Duffbeerforme. Modest changes have now been made based on Boffob's suggestions. --Tenmei (talk) 18:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep in answer to one of the comments above, people like lists, and because they serve very effectively for browsing, which throughout history has ben one of the key function of books, libraries,and especially encyclopedias. There are almost always considerably more of a particular sort of thing worth looking at than you knew existed. A list such as this is a very effective guide to a career. He gave too many speeches for them all to be worth including at least initially, so some sort of selective criterion is needed, but essentially  its like a bibliography of an authors works. I think it would be a good idea to complete this if possible, and if there are a few thousand, as there may be over a career t like his, I see no harm there either. Why is sourced information about what extremely notable people do in their career inappropriate for an encyclopedia? There are probably a few dozen at least worth adding,  and certainly we could use more than 3 individual Wikipedia entries for individual ones DGG (talk) 19:31, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. I started the article because I was looking for information on more speeches of him (only three were mentioned in Wikipedia). Why not expand each entry, adding analysis or contents of the speech? Or suggest to merge it with the main article MLK? Why not adding a supreme article or section on the overall style and content of the speeches? Would that not be encyclopedic? All this development would be curtailed bij deletion. To me the VfD stems from impatience. -DePiep (talk) 20:54, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * DePiep -- FYI: I did add a "main article" template in the introductory paragraphs of Martin Luther King, Jr., near the mention of the March on Washington and King's oratory in the context of that event -- alerting reader to the fact that relevant material can be found at List of speeches by Martin Luther King. --Tenmei (talk) 21:16, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep While a list of speeches by an average person wouldn't be worthy of keeping, it's quite useful and indeed necessary (and definitely not OR or POV) to have a list of speeches by one of the best known speakers of the 20th century. Nyttend (talk) 01:37, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd like to withdraw this AfD under WP:SNOWBALL. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 04:40, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 12:44, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.