Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of sports team names and mascots of European origin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Seraphimblade Talk to me 02:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

List of sports team names and mascots of European origin

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Fails WP:NOT (Wikipedia is not a collection of indiscriminate information. It may arguably be original research also.  Note: please place this on lists-related deletions. YechielMan 03:06, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete I wouldn't go so far as to say OR, but is unsourced, and doesn't appear to be helpful. Mr.Z-man  talk ¢ Review! 03:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom. Crested Penguin 04:56, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep First, this list is not indiscriminate information. It's clear that an effort was made to, in fact, discriminate among team names and mascots to include only those derived from European peoples or traditions, as distinguished from indigenous peoples of the Americas and Oceana.  Second, why would a list like this need to be documented?  It mostly links to WP articles where the European-origin name is part of the title or easily seen at the linked source.  I suggest keeping it to reduce the friction at List of sports team names and mascots derived from Indigenous peoples, where the Fighting Irish and similar names keep getting added and deleted.  The comparative weakness of this list is that it doesn't have a main article or extended introduction to illustrate its purpose.--Hjal 04:59, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not for lists or repositories of loosely associated topics. In other words, why is this topic significant? Citicat 05:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete List makes no sense. Surely every sports team in Europe would qualify for inclusion under this title. Actual list only seems to concern itself with US and Canadian teams. Odd. What purpose does this serve? --Folantin 08:55, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I altered the title to be more specific. The list is intended to provide a resouce of sports teams in North America that have been named after persons, places or things from Europe just like the List of sports team names and mascots derived from Indigenous peoples lists what teams have names native to North America.
 * Strong delete: I can't figure out the point of this list at all. Utterly useless.--SeizureDog 09:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - per various parts of WP:NOT and WP:OR: this is completely unreferenced and isn't much more than conjecture. Moreschi Request a recording? 10:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, listcruft. Pavel Vozenilek 11:25, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep, Why was this given a nomination for deletion when a similar article List of sports team names and mascots derived from Indigenous peoples has existed for over a year? Cmjc80 17:26, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Response. Because I didn't know about the article you referred to. Without expressing an opinion on that article's status, I'll recall the guideline that "inclusion is not an indicator of notability" WP:INN. YechielMan 20:38, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, there exists an ongoing controversy surrounding Native American sports team names (and possibly other Indigenous peoples, I'm not certain) that makes that list have a purpose.. Citicat 03:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete for reasons stated. Incredibly USAcentric! The fact that [[List of sports team names and mascots derived from Indigenous peoples exists is not a reason to keep. Emeraude 18:54, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes the list is "USAcentric". Actually its North American centric with most teams listed located in the USA.  The point of the list is to show which teams in North America are named after things that ARE NOT native to the continent, just like the List of sports team names and mascots derived from Indigenous peoples is a list to show which teams are named after things that ARE native to the continent.
 * Delete One of the weakest ideas for an article that I have seen for some time. Certainly meets my interpretation of indiscriminate information. - fchd 21:44, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep but with modifications, Titans, Senators etc. should be removed. This should only list teams named after specific ethnic groups (Irish, Scots etc.) Windyjarhead 01:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep But prune it down a bit to such as "Fighting Irish" and "Fighting Swedes." A useful complement to [[List of sports team names and mascots derived from Indigenous peoples and all the recent hoo-haa about Chief Illiniwek and his counterparts. Any of the college or pro team mascots have numerous article about them, and there has also been ample press coverage about the lack of corresponding agitation to get rid of European mascots. It is not "conjecture" that college teams have Spartans or Irish as their mascots, for pity's sake. Google them if you doubt the truth of the assertions. Add references rather than just voting to delete. U.S. team mascots have been widely covered, and Chief Illiniwek was banned after 80 plus years. No bannning of "Fighting Irish" and the like so far. The topic is of considerable coverage in the U.S. press. Edison 04:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is not indiscriminate information. Spy1986 09:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.