Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of states with language politics (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Black Kite 01:54, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

List of states with language politics
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There's no way this list can be sourced, as "a state where language is a politic issue" is undefinable. There are discussions about language policies in every country in the world, but how should we determine when this is a politic issue? must there be a heavy debate? terrorist attacks, maybe? seriously, this is unsourceable. a list of minority languages by country, or a list of banned/suppressed languages, could be made, but not this one Piccolo Modificatore Laborioso (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. This article has been tagged for WP:OR and WP:V violations since August 2006.  One shouldn't first turn to AfD to solve verifiabiliy and original research problems, but deletion is an appropriate measure when the nature and history of an article show that it is unlikely to ever comply with WP:V and WP:OR.  It is an WP:OR list that practically invites WP:NPOV problems.  --Skeezix1000 (talk) 17:47, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete This list has a snowball's chance in hell of being encyclopedic. Virtually every state has a political issue, or has the potential for political issues, over the language used in that state.  Specific issues of specific states may deserve their own articles, and then this can be made into a category, but as a list it is impossible to maintain as accurate, verifiable and encyclopedic.  Theseeker4 (talk) 18:36, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:V/WP:OR. For example the Norwegian section do not mention Riksmål (and it's a problematic area). Nsaa (talk) 19:11, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Question: Would this have a chance of surviving if we changed this to a List of countries with multiple official languages and totally remove the politics/conflict part of the article. Such a list would be verifiable and useful and we could draw sources from country articles. - Mgm|(talk) 21:00, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * In that case, the article wouldn't really be surviving. The apparent intent of the list, created nearly five years ago when the bar was not raised as high, was to have a table to keep track of political controversies involving language use; something that I think would be difficult to maintain.  There are other tables that describe the official languages in the world's nations, although I'd have to do some looking to show a good example.  Delete per above. Mandsford (talk) 22:29, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It's at List of official languages by state. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 23:01, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks-- I knew it was there somewhere. Mandsford (talk) 01:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete oh good lord. JBsupreme (talk) 02:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thoughts or prayers are always appreciated. Mandsford (talk) 03:07, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete for irremediable WP:V problems. -- Biruitorul Talk 19:17, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Apart from anything else, the name is highly misleading. You might as well have a page called "List of states with politics". Junglehungry (talk) 00:40, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

NOTE - those who are curious about the first AfD discussion can find it at Articles for deletion/List of states where language is a political issue. I offer no recommendation at this time. B.Wind (talk) 01:42, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


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