Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of suicides


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Keep; non-admin closure. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:26, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

List of suicides

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This should be a category, if anything. Meanest Streets (talk) 23:04, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nomination plus complete and utter lack of reliable sources. Meanest Streets (talk) 23:09, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Although "utter lack of reliable sources" sounds very dramatic, it would be very easy to source this one. This is superior to a category, which would be limited to the information that a person committed suicide, with no info about the circumstances.  Finally, there's a question of taste in slapping the label "people who committed suicide" on each person's article.  Mandsford (talk) 00:42, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I was 100% ready to come in and say Delete, but wanted to go read WP:LISTS first, to provide a solid rationale. Then I realized the list isn't indescriminate, it is informational, it is limited in scope to notable persons, and makes for a reasonable starting place to research suicide.  It offers more than a category does, with brief info on who they are, is wikified nicely (demonstrating they are notable).  And it is well organized, allows for possible suicides, well thought out, and the wikified nature makes it self sourcing.  Its a dark subject matter and has a certain amount of ICKY factor to it, but that doesn't matter.  In the end, it is exactly what an encyclopedia is supposed to do, particularly one that is not a paper encyclopedia.  So, in spite of my first, knee jerk reaction, I have no choice but to say KEEP.  Pharmboy (talk) 02:21, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * keep a useful well-done list and certainly it falls within the definition of lists in WP. The fact that this could also be a category if irrelevant; WP allows for both lists and categories on the same subject; they serve different purposes. Hmains (talk) 05:32, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep All the articles will be sourced. Lugnuts (talk) 08:21, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. This used to be a very bad list, but it's improved since the last nomination. Referencing lists by linking to an article with sources is acceptable (and common), and the present version of the list has been pretty thoroughly vetted for completely unreferenced items. Although Category:Suicides exists, this isn't redundant to it, because there's no way for a category to give all the information listed (e.g., date of death). I don't see anything in the nomination to support deletion. — Gavia immer (talk) 14:57, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete This list would be huge and therefor very unreadable in my opinion. It should therefore be made a category. Poeloq (talk) 20:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong keep Important topic. Article may need more references and rewriting, but not deletion. Suicide is an important issue, and the topic of this article is notable. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 13:58, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment More important than that the fact that the subject matter is notable is the fact that a List can provide context that a Category can not, and this article puts that to good use. Pharmboy (talk) 15:15, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Why should it be deleted? No reason was given in the nomination. When proposing an article for deletion, a reason should be given, otherwise it shouldn't even count as a nomination. The list has only notable people and if made into a category it wouldn't be able to have supplementary information. Tim  meh  !  20:18, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


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