Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of supporters of same-sex marriage in the United States


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:02, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

List of supporters of same-sex marriage in the United States

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This list, though incomplete, isn't needed, as this can apply to anyone.  Zoo Fari  23:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC) Related:


 * Delete. Any list that can potentially contain easily over 1 million entries is definitely not wanted in Wikipedia. Also, WP:BLP --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 01:08, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SALAT, this list is too broad. I don't know if a category would be better, but a list like this is of no value, because you're likely to have at least 30% of US BLPs (conservative estimate based on current support levels) as part of this list, for it to have any value. And if the list is going to be selective on who can get in, even if they are notable enough to have a Wikipedia page, then the title of the list needs to be changed. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 01:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Considering that more than forty percent of Americans support gay marriage, it would have to be one hell of a list. Too broad in scope, no real value. — Rankiri (talk) 01:30, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Page has been renamed. In response to above concerns, I have moved the page to List of American politicians who support same-sex marriage.  Bryan Hopping  T  02:07, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 02:21, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 02:21, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Even if the list has been narrowed, we are talking about supporters. This ain't no 3rd party, and will require fundamental polls to determine specific politicians who do support same-sex marriage. One can't simply determine a politician's opinion, and the politician himself is least likely to expose this opinion. Just my 2 cents, and still keep my delete.  Zoo Fari  02:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Considering that the article you nominated for deletion no longer exists. I suggest this AfD be closed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hopping (talk • contribs)
 * I'm sorry. Moving the article while it is under AFD debate is not a kosher method of getting around an impending Delete result. - TexasAndroid (talk) 02:49, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Response My earlier comment still stands, now instead of the list being 30% (or 40% per Rankiri) of US BLPs, it will be the same proportion of US Politician BLPs, the problem stands. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 02:51, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. SpacemanSpiff is correct. The New York State alone has at least 89 State Assembly and 20 State Senate members who publicly proclaim their support for gay marriage. The renamed list would still have to cover thousands of US politicians. — Rankiri (talk) 16:40, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. Just too broad to be of use. Niteshift36 (talk) 03:03, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete both per WP:SALAT. Hekerui (talk) 09:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete both as members of List of lists that are too vague to be useful. Frank  |  talk  09:51, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete As per above. Would the list contain people outside of the US who support gay marriage within it? Even if we could decide upon criteria for inclusion upon the list, I can't really see what use it would be. &#618;nt&#601;  sv&#603;nsk''  12:30, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete both copies of this potentially huge but vague list. PamD (talk) 16:11, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Rename to something like List of American politicians who have publicly declared support of same-sex marriage. This addresses the problem of vagueness (which I really don't see as a problem since it would need to be based on verification in a reliable source). I have to wonder if those who are saying that this list would run to the thousands have actually paid attention to the statements that politicians actually make. Many express support of extending rights and benefits to same-sex couples but very few of them actually use the word "marriage". Otto4711 (talk) 11:03, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * ...which would lead almost inevitably to edit wars about what is a reliable source for whatever they actually did say and what they meant to say. Mind you, I'm not saying an article shouldn't exist because it is difficult; I'm just saying this one is going to be of limited (if any) value. Frank  |  talk  13:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If it's sourced, then it's public. If it isn't sourced, then it is not for Wikipedia. So "publicly declared" bit in the title is unnecessary. GregorB (talk) 16:18, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. What a huge and rather unhelpful list indeed. Is List of supporters of partial-birth abortion in the United States next up for creation so we can target all those folks too? How about List of opponents of same-sex marriage in the United States so we can seperate everyone onto one list or the other or maybe create an undecided one as well. -- Banj e  b oi   18:31, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. I am inclined to agree. -- can  dle &bull; wicke  16:55, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Should include List of members of the United States Congress who support same-sex marriage created by the same editor. -- Deadly&forall;ssassin 11:05, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.