Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of supporting A Series of Unfortunate Events characters


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was procedural close. I'm striking my vote and procedurally closing these. A look at the nominator's past edits shows that they made a similar round of AfD nominations back in September and they were specifically warned on their talk page that AfD is a last resort, only if merging is not an option. Per current conventions, list pages for popular, notable series like ASoUE with multiple characters are allowable and are considered to pass notability guidelines for list pages. I don't see where the AfD for the list page would close any other way other than a "keep", so that leaves merging as an option. As for the individual pages, there is merit in the idea that these characters do not have independent notability outside of the series, however the first option here should have been to suggest a merge - an option that the nominator should already have been fully aware of - especially since the talk page for this list article shows that several other characters have been merged into the list page, which suggests that like the prior AfDs, the nominator may not have done their due research while nominating these articles for deletion. AfD is not a way to WP:CLEANUP articles and merging is a part of cleanup. I'm closing this and opening up a merge discussion at Talk:List_of_supporting_A_Series_of_Unfortunate_Events_characters. This comment is going to be placed on all of the AfDs, so forgive me for making it a bit general. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  11:29, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

List of supporting A Series of Unfortunate Events characters
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WP:FANCRUFT. No real world coverage DJ Autagirl (talk) 07:09, 19 December 2015 (UTC) *Keep. It's relatively standard to have a list page for various characters in a series, especially if the series is very well known and has a large cast. Now the bigger question is whether or not any of the major characters merit their own page or should be merged into this article, which I'll have to research first. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  07:27, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tokyogirl79 —Мандичка YO 😜 08:00, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - I read from somewhere that notability is not inherited. DJ Autagirl (talk) 09:24, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not, but list articles are somewhat different beasts. As stated above, it's a fairly normal occurrence for long running notable series to have a list page for the characters, especially if the series is adapted to different formats like film, games, and so on. In this case it makes more sense for Wikipedia to have one list for all of the characters as opposed to trying to list all of this on the main page or whittling it down to only 4-5 characters. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  11:13, 19 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I see that you have a history of making spurious AfD nominations and that you recently did this in September for Matrix related articles. There is serious question as to whether or not the individual characters or the page for the Baudelaire family merit their own pages, however the final answer to this is not outright deletion but rather a merge discussion - which is not the purpose of AfD. Now while I've voted here, I'm actually going to close these and open a merge discussion. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  11:19, 19 December 2015 (UTC)


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