Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of suspects in the Ergenekon investigation


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. j⚛e deckertalk 16:02, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

List of suspects in the Ergenekon investigation

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Many persons are included in the list as being "under suspicion of being members of the illegal Ergenekon network," but they are persons of no demonstrated notability otherwise, many are not even said to have been arrested and charged, and many have no reference at all or any Wikipedia article. WP:BLPCRIME is the relevant policy, and says "A person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until proven guilty and convicted by a court of law. For people who are relatively unknown, editors must give serious consideration to not including material in any article suggesting that the person has committed, or is accused of committing, a crime unless a conviction is secured.[6]" Only non-English sources are provided in general, and appear to be very stale as to status for those who have any references, such as stating they are "standing trial" as of 2007. There does not appear to be any prospect that anyone will bring the article into compliance with WP:BLP. Edison (talk) 19:40, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete, to start, based on the arguments by the nominator per WP:BLP and WP:BLPCRIME. However, this also fails WP:LIST as being fairly random and listing many NN persons (as evidenced by all those names of defendants in red links).  There are also, as noted, no way to verify much of the information, which is sourced in the odd Turkish orthography, which is difficult to search via older browsers. Bearian (talk) 17:34, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete when did Wikipedia become CNN? MiracleMat (talk) 09:59, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.