Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of tallest buildings in Peoria


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The arguments that this is so poorly sourced as not to warrant a merger are convincing.  Sandstein  07:10, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

List of tallest buildings in Peoria

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Does not meet WP:LISTN. Almost none of these buildings are notable. The two that are notable are for historical reasons, not their height. Rusf10 (talk) 05:19, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Rusf10 (talk) 05:19, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Rusf10 (talk) 05:19, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 10:37, 1 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete/merge Buildings are not very tall at all and largely not notable either individually or as a group. The tallest can be mentioned at Peoria,_Illinois but having a few 10- to 20-story office buildings does not warrant a Tall Buildings list. Reywas92Talk 05:27, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect to Peoria, Illinois. Only 2 of 11 buildings have articles.  Sources are sparse. WP:Preserve 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 10:31, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * OTOH, there are lots of similar lists for lots of cities that have smaller buildings. See e.g., List of tallest buildings in Gary and Talk:List of tallest buildings in Gary.  In that sense, there is just a need to improve the sourcing. Cf. List of tallest buildings in Rockford, Illinois, which implicitly shows sources exist to improve this article in like manner. WP:Not paper. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎</b>) 11:21, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I would also note, as I discussed on the talk page of this article, that the list is apparently incomplete. 3 churches and 14 high rise buildings per Emporis. This should be subject to expansion. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 12:27, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * St. Mary's Cathedral		230 ft	-	church	1889

2	Northwoods Community Church			2	church	1997 3	Sacred Heart Catholic Church			-	church	1906>=<br<

The high rises are: 1	Twin Towers I	3	308 ft	29	high-rise building	1984 2	Twin Towers II	3	308 ft	29	high-rise building	1984 3	Commerce Bank Building	2	256 ft	17	high-rise building	1920 4	Associated Bank Plaza	3	243 ft	20	high-rise building	196 5	Becker Building	4	211 ft	16	high-rise building	1993 6	Hotel Père Marquette	8	187 ft	14	high-rise building	1927 7	Glen Oak Towers	1	168 ft	15	high-rise building	1953 8	Lehmann Building		161 ft	12	high-rise building	1916 9	Chase Bank Building		135 ft	9	high-rise building	1904 10	Caterpillar Administration Building	1	134 ft	8	high-rise building	1967 11	Central Building	1	128 ft	10	high-rise building	1914 12	PNC Bank Building	5		13	high-rise building	1926 13	River Valley Plaza	2		12	high-rise building	1910 14	401 Water Street	1		8	high-rise building	1905 If we are DISCUSSING deleting this article, we should consider WP:NEXIST <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 12:51, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * First of all the existence of articles for other cities means nothing, see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Second Emporis is not a reliable source, it is WP:UGC--Rusf10 (talk) 14:43, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Prve your claim that Emporis is what you claim it is. Djflem (talk) 22:19, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I started a discussion on this, see Reliable sources/Noticeboard. I am certain it is not reliable, but if you think you can prove otherwise go ahead.--Rusf10 (talk) 23:18, 3 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete Tallest buildings lists should not be made for every small town that happens to have a few buildings that are barely outside the definition of a skyscraper (Emporis sets the bar at 100m, CTBUH at 150m). Not to mention the lack of coverage that can be found from a non-database, non-local newspaper source.  Sounder Bruce  22:08, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I since the nominator doesn't believe Emporis is invalid, he would agree that this ivote would also be invalid since it bases it argument on it, right?

Djflem (talk) 22:19, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Rusf10WP:NEXIST has nothing to do with the existence of other articles. You mischaracterized what I and that guideline state.
 * Notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article
 * The absence of sources or citations in an article (as distinct from the non-existence of sources) does not indicate that a subject is not notable. Notability requires only the existence of suitable independent, reliable sources, not their immediate presence or citation in an article. Editors evaluating notability should consider not only any sources currently named in an article, but also the possibility or existence of notability-indicating sources that are not currently named in the article. Thus, before proposing or nominating an article for deletion, or offering an opinion based on notability in a deletion discussion, editors are strongly encouraged to attempt to find sources for the subject in question and consider the possibility of existent sources if none can be found by a search. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 10:53, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * user:7&6=thirteen So, what sources have you found (other than Emporis.com)? You cannot just declare there are sources without proof. Furthermore, do the sources meet WP:LISTN discussing the buildings as a group?--Rusf10 (talk) 15:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Merge/Redirect to Peoria, Illinois.Djflem (talk) 22:21, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. The entire article is constructed from this page on Emporis, which is a site that publishes user-generated content. Additionally, the data in the list doesn't even match either of the cited sources, which calls into question where this information is coming from. Since the entire list is improperly sourced and does not meet WP:LISTN, it should be deleted. —  Newslinger  talk   04:46, 4 July 2019 (UTC)


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