Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of teen dramas


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The result was   no consensus. —  Aitias  // discussion 17:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

List of teen dramas

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This article is a pure laundry list. It has no hope of ever being kept up to date, and has no encyclopaedic value. A category may be suitable (I wouldn't be suprised if one already existed - I haven't researched it), but an article definitely isn't. The same goes for List of teen films and List of teen magazines, which I also include in this AfD. Talk Islander 23:27, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment The categories are Category:Teen dramas, Category:Teen films and Category:Teens' magazines. I don't know how comprehensive they are. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 02:11, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Looks okay to me. Are you saying there are no sources for teen dramas? Or that this and the other ones are indiscriminate lists? Unless we do away with list articles I don't see the issue here. But I'm happy to consider arguments on why this wouldn't be good to include. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:38, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment These, in my opinion, are worse than normal list articles. For example, a list of programmes broadcast on Channel X is not a brilliant article, but at least there's some chance that it can be made complete (find an official catalogue of Channel X programmes, and there you go). With these particular lists, there's no chance that they'll ever be complete. Off the top of my head I can think of plenty of teen dramas that by rights should be in that list, but aren't. Of course I could add them - I will if this AfD fails - but then there will always be dramas that I haven't heard of, that others who contribute to Wikipedia haven't heard of, that have been plain forgotten etc. What do lists offer here that categories don't? Talk Islander 00:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You make some good points. But couldn't you say that none of the articles on living persons or ongoing series are complete?  And if some shows aren't notable enough for their own article they can be included here. There's also an opportunity to add additional categories notation by making the list into a table, that couldn't be done with a category. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:01, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 05:18, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Lists are as least a good as categories for this, if people are willing to maintain it, for they can give more information. DGG (talk) 05:48, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Not Another Teen List Article! — In all seriousness, however, keep all. I would like to see the teen movie article at least split into smaller articles for ease of accessibility, but otherwise all three lists seems to be fairly discriminate. MuZemike  ( talk ) 08:01, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep the list of dramas (although it needs shortening; for example Eerie Indiana isn't a drama by any stretch of the imagination) and keep the list of films. They both provide content that cannot be included in a directory. Delete the list of magazines since it does nothing a category can't do. - Mgm|(talk) 10:34, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete all. The titles of the lists mean that any additions to them would inherently violate WP:NOR. Stifle (talk) 11:37, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * So it is impossible to say that anything is a teen drama... please remove all the examples from teen drama and I'll believe you. Pulsaro (talk) 17:41, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, fairly discrimate lists. Pulsaro (talk) 17:41, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep The lack of referencing is a turnoff and the list is limited to some English-language countries, which dilutes its encyclopedic value. Nonetheless, it is more comprehensive than most Wikipedia lists and could benefit from further editing. Ecoleetage (talk) 12:38, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete all per WP:NOR, or WP:V, or WP:NPOV.Oroso (talk)  08:26, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


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