Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of television series that include time travel (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 04:12, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

List of television series that include time travel
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This is a non-notable list. It survived a deletion nearly 14 years ago, I'm thinking could a second time worth a shot to have this deleted or should this just be used for what the original nomination from all those years ago wanted the use of WP:Categorization. Pahiy (talk) 00:20, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. CptViraj (📧) 00:56, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Entertainment-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 01:15, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 01:17, 1 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:LISTN serves an informational or navigational purpose. The list is full of blue links. Lightburst (talk) 01:23, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep The rules are clear, don't destroy a list because you prefer a category, they can both exist for things. If someone wants to see which television shows have time travel, a notable feature of science fiction, this would be useful for them.   D r e a m Focus  02:44, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. This list expressly excludes shows primary focus is on time travel such as Doctor Who and Quantum Leap, and only includes shows which included episodes about time travel. Consequently, I would suggest that if no specific episode is listed for a series, it should be removed from the list until a specific episode or explanation is provided. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:25, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * If someone is missing then look at the summaries of the list of episodes for that series and search for the word "Time travel" and you can find it and then added it to the list as I just easily did.   D r e a m Focus  06:31, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - uses a currently horrible article format, as it should be a table, which can be sortable by users by preference - series, dates, etc. That said, the content itself is notable and categories ≠ lists. (Side comment/rant: ideally in a more better coded Wikipedia, list articles would be generated from pages in a categories dynamically, without needing users to manually create and duplicate data, but yea, that would not happen in our life time). --Gonnym (talk) 10:58, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Strong delete (or better yet, go back in time and stop the creator of this list from doing so). Fancruft gone mad. Lists of one-shot episodes including topic xxx are innumerable and unnotable, e.g. List of television series that include dream sequences, List of television series that include bank robberies, List of television series that include doublecrosses. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:39, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak delete Yes, there is Category:Television episodes about time travel, making me !vote "weak". However, per Clarityfiend, time travel is an arbitrary (INDISCRIMINATE) plot device, so why should this list exist?. I am worried about the WP:TRIVIA aspect and maintainability of this list, as it's already more crufty than tvtropes, a good sign that wikipedia is overdoing it. – sgeureka t•c 09:58, 2 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete- The whole idea of listing things that appear in TV shows not specifically about those things, is inherently untenable. Reyk YO! 14:26, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Sgeureka and Reyk. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:59, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete This is far better than a list, but time travel can be all sorts of things, including a one off gag, and this just cfreates trviail coverage.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:25, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This isn't a list of series, but more of a list of individual episodes of TV series that have a brief mention of time travel. There is no clear list criteria so this article fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE WP:NOR and also WP:LISTCRUFT. Ajf773 (talk) 20:16, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - has not ‘been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources’ and the inclusion of many episodes will inherently require OR. The inclusion criterion is so tenuous as to make the list essentially useless and impossible to maintain in a meaningful and useful way. Hugsyrup 08:51, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Just because time travel happens in a show somewhere in its run makes this list far too indiscriminate. Shows that are about time travel, where it is a central tenet of the show (eg Time Tunnel, Doctor Who, Quantum Leap, etc.) would be an acceptable list, but not any show that happened to have that one silly time travel or Groundhog-day type scenario. --M asem (t) 19:29, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I completely agree with Hug's reasoning above Dartslilly (talk) 04:05, 7 January 2020 (UTC)


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