Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of tenants in St. David's Centre


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The result was   delete. NW ( Talk ) 03:06, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

List of tenants in St. David's Centre
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Pure directory information, running afoul of WP:NOT, and unlikely to ever become encyclopedic. SchuminWeb (Talk) 00:37, 3 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Is merging with the main article possible? Kushal (talk) 00:46, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really. The only thing one would be able to do would be to redirect the title, because none of the information is appropriate for an encyclopedia.  For that, one might as well just delete the blasted thing.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:28, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Could it survive as a Category? What do you think? Kushal (talk) 05:44, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really. Where would it go - on the pages for the corporate entities that lease space?  Seems a bit like overcategorization, and could set a nasty precedent.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 14:03, 3 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: I can't find any stand-alone articles similar to this on wikipedia for other shopping centers (a dissimilar exception is lists of the former tenants of the various world trade center buildings destroyed on Sept. 11, 2001).  Maintaining lists like this is also a pain, and shopping centers usually have websites containing this information which can be linked to (and they'll update them more often than free volunteers here, most likely).  The main article for a shopping center might ideally include a list of the anchor tenants, see, e.g., Mall of America, Abu Dhabi Mall, Hougang Mall, or mention the opening of some notable new store that received press at the time of opening, but having a full list of stores seems like a bad idea (i am sure we can find some that do if we looked, but I don't think its a good idea).  So, its not that wikipedia can't have lists like this, but it seems that consensus may be that it shouldn't.--Milowent (talk) 15:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a shopping centre directory. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 17:49, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. The "guideline that isn't a guideline", WP:ANC, advises against tenant lists in shopping centre articles.--Pondle (talk) 18:09, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wales-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:35, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malls-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:35, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: I agree with the WP:ANC essay.--Milowent (talk) 18:58, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:ANC. Wikipedia is not a shopping centre directory. I also note that most or all of the sections about possible future tenants is unsourced. Thryduulf (talk) 20:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: I created the page to separate the main atricle from the list of tenants which was taking up half the page, making it look very messy and as if it had been copied from a website. The new list page I created was to categorise the list of tenants into appropriate categories. I have recently edited it to make it a bit more suitable. References were available in the original bulk and would be available to recover from page history - simple. You also complained about the opening paragraph sounding to much like an advertisement. Despite finding that comment ridiculous, I have updated it to suit your taste. I think that this is a useful list and it is a lot tidier than the original. I leave it to you to decide. If you do say no, is there any other wiki on the wikimedia network that this would be suitable on??? Thanks, Lwebdan (talk) 17:42, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I think such lists are useful, but guidance like WP:ANC suggests wikipedia is not to be the source of that information--we leave it up to the websites of the centers themselves. A List of pizza places in New York City would also have use, but everyone seems to agree that we'd shun such an article.  (see also, for a tangentially related discussion of the types of lists we have on wikipedia, my comment as part of Articles_for_deletion/List_of_wineries_and_vineyards_in_Maine). --Milowent (talk) 20:03, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.