Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of the Annual General Meetings /Summer Conferences and Presidents of the Cambrian Archaeological Association


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The result was   merge to Cambrian Archaeological Association. (non-admin closure) NorthAmerica1000 15:41, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

List of the Annual General Meetings /Summer Conferences and Presidents of the Cambrian Archaeological Association

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Article was proposed for deletion, but this was removed with an explanation on the talk page of the article. In my opinion, it doesn't address the reasons for the proposed deletion, so an AfD it is. The reason for the prod was:

No indication why this would be a notable subject, it is not as if the election of the president is a widely awaited event that gets lots of coverage in reliable, independent sources. I don't doubt that we can find some passing mentions from news reports, but nothing substantial. That an organisation has included its internal organisation in its publications is normal, but that doesn't mean that it has a place on Wikipedia. Fram (talk) 07:32, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Comment The following explanation was given for this contribution on the talk page: “This was a contribution intended as a Wiki List, not a Wiki Article and is linked to the main article Cambrian Archaeological Association. The main article is currently being revised in ‘Tyssil sandbox’ and in order to avoid the article becoming too long or difficult to navigate, this list was created. The ‘Cambrian Archaeological Association’ is a very important institution within Wales. It is the oldest, continuously active, learned Society within Wales. Its publications over 178 years are very possibly the most important individual printed sources available for the Archaeology, Local History, Medieval History and Architectural History of Wales and the Welsh Borderlands. This list clearly shows who were the people involved in the Association and has been linked to many bibliographic entries within Wikipedia. It illustrates the very important role of the Association from 1844 to the present day in the cultural life and scholarship about Wales and the Welsh Borders”. Tyssil (talk) 09:33, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep but prune -- The Cambrian Archaeological Association is certainly an important body. I am far from convinced of the merits of the first major section, but a list of presidents, most of whom are notable enough to have an article is potentially useful, that is as long as the office of president was not just an honour offered to a notable person who was interested, but actually played little role in the running of the organisation.  The locations of the conferneces are of rather less interest, but harmless.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:57, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. The cambrian archaeological association is a small charity and this article lists trivial details about its past. Szzuk (talk) 15:06, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. The CAA is undoubtedly an important cultural institution in Wales (and in UK archaeology), and the parent article should unquestionably remain and be developed. It is quite normal on wikipedia for articles on societies and associations to include lists of their presidents or other senior officers (e.g. Society of Antiquaries of London for a comparable body), and the notability of many of those who have served as Presidents of the CAA is demonstrated by the number who are bluelinked. The only complicating factor in this case is the fact that, unlike many societies where the presidential terms last several years, the CAA President holds office for just one year, his or her tenure being closely associated with the Summer Conference. This means that the list is unusually long, and would threaten to unbalance the main article if included there. Tyssil states that he/she intends to expand the main article: once that is done, and the question of "balance" is no longer an issue, there might be a case for merging this list into it. Meanwhile, this separate article seems the best solution. I agree with Peterkingiron that the descriptive paragraphs could probably be pruned a little (and, in the list, the "no meeting" years of 1940–45 could surely be given as a block rather than individually listed): however, the location of the Conference is also of some significance, in that the papers delivered there tend to focus on the archaeology of the locality, so the location is also to some extent the theme of the Conference. GrindtXX (talk) 16:54, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * merge Not really appropriate for a separate article ; the length is not too long, and can be shortened further by omitting the illustrations; nice as they are, they don;t really contribute to the understanding of the content.  DGG ( talk ) 18:23, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge per User:DGG. Dralwik&#124;Have a Chat 23:29, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Userfy to User:Tyssil, per WP:LISTN. This could be pared down and have sources added. If the parent article at Cambrian Archaeological Association were to be significantly expanded, then a short list could be merged in there in the future. -- Trevj (talk · contribs) 20:24, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. As Tyssil seems diffident about doing so him/herself (and in fact appears not to have been near Wikipedia since 27 February, when this proposal for deletion was made), perhaps I can draw editors' attention to the version of the parent article he/she was previously working on in his/her sandbox here. While this is clearly still not finished, it seems to me to be a well researched and thorough account of the CAA, in which the list of presidents does not take up a disproportionate amount of space. GrindtXX (talk) 00:33, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge to Cambrian Archaeological Association. I agree with ; the high percentage of blue linked presidents tells me that this is a notable list.  The article title is absurd, however.  -- RoySmith (talk) 01:31, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, slakr  \ talk / 07:59, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge to the parent article about the association, which needs more information about its history anyway. Enough notable names to make it a valid list within that article. I've found bluelinks for a couple of the redlinks, and I suspect there are a few more out there. BencherliteTalk 12:35, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
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