Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of the tallest buildings in Champaign, Illinois


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. If anyone interested in merging the content, ping me though my talk page, or if there is no reply, my email. Secret account 03:37, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

List of the tallest buildings in Champaign, Illinois

 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

Unnecessary page for a non-major city to have a list of tallest buildings for. Also, all entries in the table are either red links and/or redirects. Tinton5 (talk) 00:08, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete WP is not a directory of buildings, especially when none are notable, special, or even very tall. (24 stories max.) Kitfoxxe (talk) 02:41, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - Wikipedia is not the place for a list of buildings in a city with a population of >150,000 where the tallest buildings aren't that tall. Especially when none of the buildings have their own page. ö   Brambleberry   of   RiverClan  15:17, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep If WP does not have directories of buildings how do you explain Template:US tallest buildings lists? I also contest deletion due to ambiguous definition of "major US city". How do you characterize a city such as Peoria, IL or the Quad Cities being major US cities/areas as opposed to Champaign or the Champaign–Urbana metropolitan area. Both Peoria and the Quad Cities have lists of their tallest buildings. Also Peoria's tallest building is only 29 floor and the Quad Cities tallest building is only 17 floors. Cubbie15fan 16:52, 19 August 2013, (UTC)
 * Another case of WP:Otherstuffexists. Those pages do in fact have links to buildings, which are notable. Tinton5 (talk) 17:34, 19 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep Standards for what cities are eligible to have tallest buildings never clearly established. Citations need to be cleaned up. List does have 10 entries that qualify as high rise buildings (at least 115ft tall, or 12 floors). I dont think it should belong, but in light of no standards being established, I cant see it being deleted. I would be willing to discuss any standards for inclusion of "Tallest Buildings lists" with anyone who wants to do so. Zonafan39 (talk) 14:13, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I have opened a Request for Comment for Tallest Buildings lists at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Skyscrapers/Tallest building lists. Zonafan39 (talk) 00:45, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Additional Comment In this AfD, there was discussion about establishing guidelines for notability for tallest buildings lists, but there was no definite consensus or implementation of those guidelines. In this AfD, the list was merged instead of deleted. Just some food for thought based on past discussions. Zonafan39 (talk) 12:58, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:37, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:37, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:37, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Additional Thought I find this point very intersting. Based upon these past discussions, the true lack of established standards, and no valid, concrete reasons for deletion, why remove information that a Wikipedia user may find interesting? I do not see benefit in removing this information. Please review prior discussion that Zonafan39 has cited above. Note that Champaign has taller buildings and more buildings that some additional cities not mentioned above that some users may classify as a more "major city". Cubbie15fan 15:18, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Additional Thought 2 For a concrete definition of a high-rise building it is worth pointing out that "The National Fire Protection Association defines “high-rise building” as a building greater than 75 feet (25 m) in height where the building height is measured from the lowest level of fire department vehicle access to the floor of the highest occupiable story" . All 10 buildings list on this page exceed this minimum standard by at least 52 ft, with the tallest building exceeding this standard by 193 ft. Cubbie15fan 15:33, 21 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. This city is too small to have such a list and the buildings on it aren't notable enough. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:06, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge - It seems like we have previous consensus at AfD that such "lists of tallest dwarves" are not encyclopedic on the basis of WP:NOTLIST, but this material would fit in fine under the city header. Not too big to merge in full, in my opinion. Carrite (talk) 22:15, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.