Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of theatres in Louisville, Kentucky


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep and improve. As users have pointed out, article needs improvement but consensus is "keep". (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 05:44, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

List of theatres in Louisville, Kentucky

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No other city has a list of theatesr. Most of the listings are vague and obscure, sourced only to fan sites and otherwise unreliable sources. Fails WP:NOTDIR, WP:V, WP:RS. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 21:39, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Other cities have lists of theaters (note List of theatres in San Francisco). As a list article, Kentucky Theater and Macauley's Theatre should be sufficient to keep the article.  It does need copy-editing; I wouldn't be opposed to a massive reduction in article size. Power~enwiki (talk) 22:20, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 * if we keep only the notable ones, then we wouldn't have a list now would we? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:34, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:51, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Kentucky-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:52, 3 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep The fact that Louisville has a better list of theaters than most other cities is not a reason to reduce Louisville's coverage to the level of other cities.  As for reliability and verifiability, yes these are important, but every source must be evaluated for the purpose for which it is being used.  That most of these listings are no longer in existence shows that this is not a directory but a viewpoint of a cultural history.  Unscintillating (talk) 08:51, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Still, most of these are unverifiable outside unreliable sites like cinematreasures.org or cinematour.com. Culling it to the reliable ones would make for a very short list. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:11, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep and make lists of theatres for other cities with theatres to be listed. bd2412  T 17:34, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Same problem as above; most are impossible to verify outside unreliable databases. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:11, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Without too much effort, I was able to find references for three in guidebooks. I would be amenable to removing all of the entries that are truly unreferenceable, but I suspect that references can be found for at least a few dozen. bd2412  T 18:43, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I checked out the reference for Westend on cinematreasures.org and it has a picture. You also get a citation to Boxoffice Magazine there for the date of opening of Westend, and a citation to the Courier-Journal of April 17, 1960.  The reopening as Cinema West lacks such citations, but thought experiment shows that movie theaters publish advertising regularly in the Courier-Journal.  Unscintillating (talk) 20:21, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep, but only the entries with articles, i.e. notable. Wikipedia is not a directory. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:25, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The article is not a directory. Unscintillating (talk) 02:05, 6 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NOTDIR. Lack of notability for a majority of the entries including reliable sources as well as independent coverage that could validate WP:LISTN. Ajf773 (talk) 10:33, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * It is not a directory. Your argument for LISTN is not so easy for me to rebut, but the nominator didn't mention that, so maybe there is a sense here that there is something about this list that doesn't fit in the norm for LISTN.  So maybe you should explain why LISTN is applicable.  Unscintillating (talk) 02:05, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * A list of addresses appears to be a directory. Ajf773 (talk) 11:19, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Directions to a place in the past is time travel. Is the issue of NOTDIR directed to the theaters that currently exist?  My point is that I think this article is a cultural history.  Unscintillating (talk) 23:54, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Most are not defunct, they are operating businesses. Also prove the notability regarding cultural heritage, as most of the list entries have no evidence of such. Ajf773 (talk) 04:51, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * What I could quickly find is that there are 104 rows and 10 of those 104 rows show that the theater is open. J Town 4 is open, but not clearly listed as open or closed.  Stony Brook is open but not listed at all.  Looking at those numbers and results loosely suggests 15-20% are open.  Unscintillating (talk) 00:12, 8 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep and improve. Lists aren't always limited to blue links but also generally include well-referenced entries. Louisville has a significant history with respect to theatres, and I don't see why this can't be improved.  If it has to be dramatically shortened in the near term, that isn't the worst thing.  This article in no way causes harm to the Wikipedia.  Stevie is the man!  Talk • Work 13:52, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Please name one entry that would be shortened. Unscintillating (talk) 02:05, 6 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - WP:OTHERSTUFF and WP:NOTDIR are not compelling reasons to delete this. Other complaints can be addressed through improvements to the article. ~Kvng (talk) 02:12, 6 September 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.