Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of titles of Harry Potter books in other languages


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was no consensus (9k, 9d). H e rmione1980 19:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

List of titles of Harry Potter books in other languages
There is no need for this. There was a very old deletion debate Talk:List of Harry Potter chapter titles in other languages/Delete, but the consensus is rather sloppy and now this is just a title list in other languages. There is no discussion of anything about the translations, just a bare list. We have a sidebar with links to wikipedias in other languages, and for this particular topic, we have Harry Potter in translation which actually has some interesting content, including a list of languages the books have been translated into. All six Harry Potter books have articles in many languages, where this information could easily be accessed. I don't think the whole Harry Pottern in translation series is bad, but Wikipedia is not babelfish.com. Delete. Mangojuice 21:47, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Alan Au 23:33, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. This keeps the chaff from the main book articles. The "Translations" sections in the other book articles, such as Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone and Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets link to here instead of having the alternate book titles clutter up the main articles. --Deathphoenix ʕ 17:11, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Striking out my vote. Just realised that they link to Harry Potter in translation instead. I'll look into this and vote later. --Deathphoenix ʕ 17:14, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. I clicked on this with the full expetation of asking for a keep, but the nominator is convincing, and having looked at the two pages in question, I agree that List is unnecessary. It will be a poor redirect, so delete. — Encephalon  17:50, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Who is to say there's no need for this information? Personally, I find the list kind of interesting. While the books have articles in the other languages, they dont neccessarily have articles in every language that the books have been translated into. Further, it's easier to read through a list than to manually click onto a foreign language wiki, where its less likely to be understandable, because well, it's in a foreign language. Also a nice thing about this article is that there are occasional translations back into English, showing how the translator chose to represent the book titles> For example, the article notes that in German, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets is Harry Potter und die Kammer des Schreckens (Harry Potter and the Chamber of Fear), or that the French version of the first book is Harry Potter at the School of Wizards. You're not neccessarily going to get that from a foreign language wiki. At the most, this information could be merged into Harry Potter in translation, but I think there's enough information there to merit keeping it in it's own article. Wikipedia is not paper, after all. &Euml;vilphoenix Burn! 18:41, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete and merge to Harry Potter in translation where useful. Dalf | Talk 21:55, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 *  Keep . As per Evilphoenix. Death Eater Dan    [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px|  ]] ( Muahaha ) 17:22, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, redundant with interwiki links. — Mar. 29, '06 [07:08] <[ freakofnurxture]|[ talk]>

'This AfD is being relisted to generate a clearer consensus. Please add new discussion below this notice. Thanks!' Johnleemk | Talk 14:31, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep for now, with the hope that someone will eventually be bold and merge/cleanup/redirect as needed.  young  american  (talk) 14:59, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup. --Ter e nce Ong 15:18, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup, my struckout comments above still stand in that this keeps the chaff away from the main pages. It's a useful list of foreign titles that isn't mentioned anywhere else, including Harry Potter in translation. --Deathphoenix ʕ 15:29, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete'.Poppypetty 15:54, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Have harry Potter fans so exhausted topics that this is what's left? Eusebeus 18:52, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Redundant. Gflor e sTalk 19:23, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. These foreign language lists are always kind of interesting and informative. Harry Potter is popular and it's good to show that the interest extends beyond the English-speaking world. Seems like just the sort of thing we need. -- JJay 19:29, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per Evilphoenix. Kusma (討論) 01:16, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. How do we verify this? It seems to be original research. This should be dealt with in the individual books' articles, with links to articles in the other languages. Lists in Wikipedia (though I don't believe most should exist) should point to articles. This one does not. Fagstein 05:31, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Come now, titles of a book are easily verifiable even if they're in other languages. Apparently, though, there have been issues on the page in the past where editors simply translated the title into another language (Klingon) without that translation actually existing.  Mangojuice 12:41, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Wow, I spend some time in the deletion area to find things that interest me, and you are absolutely everywhere. Since you have a suggestion of how it can be improved, then why delete it? All it does in remove the article, and instead of having an article that could be good once improved, we have no article at all.68.192.25.106 01:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep as it still can be improved. It is not hopeless.68.192.25.106 01:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you need to be an established editor to vote in Afd discussions. Why not go ahead and sign up for a username? &Euml;vilphoenix Burn! 03:27, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Fine. Here you go. I honestly don't see why that is needed at all. I just don't like signing in.Sbloemeke 00:54, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. The concern with this list is that it consists of titles of each Potter book translated into another language, in the script most used for that language. Most of it is likely incomprehensible to the majority of English Wikipedians, either because they don't know the language, the script, or both. Where the script is comprehensible (or even preferred), the user is better off reading about it in that tongue (and script) elsewhere. The second issue we have to confront is how to maintain this? There is, incredibly for such a long list, not a single reference. Wikipedia is a very welcoming encyclopedia, but it has certain constraints. We do not have a panel of expert editors or professional peer-reviewers or teams of expert translators. We cannot reasonably be expected to maintain a list in the mainspace which the vast majority of us can't even read (with understanding). This was a novel idea, and I wish I could support its inclusion, but given the above concerns I can't. — Encephalon 01:36, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep The idea has merit, it just needs to be better organized and focused.  Perhaps re-ordering it by region, rather than title.  Also, the inclusion of English translations and images of the book covers would make this a much more useful entry.  Definitely worth fixing, not deleting.Rhindle The Red 12:55, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.