Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of tourist attractions in Bhopal


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Bhopal.  Sandstein  12:16, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

List of tourist attractions in Bhopal

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Policies violated by this page:

WP:NOTDIRECTORY "Simple listings without contextual information showing encyclopedic merit."

WP:NOTGUIDE Wikipedia is not a travel guide. We have Wikitravel for that, and many of these pages could be recreated (or already are) there.

The core content policies are: 1) neutral point of view, 2) no original research and 3) verifiability. This page violages policies 2 and 3.

WP:VERIFY What are the criteria to meet to be in the list? This page has vague or no criteria. By definition, then, there is no way to verify the inclusion or exclusion of any particular site in the list.

WP:NOR Original research "includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources. To demonstrate that you are not adding original research, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article, and directly support the material being presented." Who says that each of the items in the list are tourist attractions? Given the lack of inclusion criteria, that's understandable, as there is no need to justify being in a list that doesn't have standards for inclusion. However, that also points to original research as being the source for inclusion. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 01:30, 26 February 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Additional discussion of sources that reference this list of items, particularly within the scope of WP:NLIST, would be helpful in ascertaining a more clear consensus on the notability of this particular list. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Mhawk10 (talk) 06:37, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 01:30, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 01:34, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Just rename it to List of places in Bhopal. Anywhere that has its own Wikipedia article, you can put there.  Category:Lists of tourist attractions by city shows there are a lot of articles like this.  All should be included in this discussion since they are all the same.   D r e a m Focus  01:44, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: Passes WP:GNG. A notable topic, about a popular tourist city. Enough coverage. Rename can be discussed on the talk page. Venkat TL (talk) 11:47, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge to Bhopal. I listing major attractions and cultural sites is appropriate, but can be done in the main article. Reywas92Talk 17:05, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Lacks independent sources supporting that WP:NLIST is met. MrsSnoozyTurtle 22:33, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: A notable list as like any other similar lists in Category:Lists of tourist attractions by city . Bhopal is a historic city of 20 million people and  is capital of Madhya Pradesh a  state of India. The reference is from the government website given in the references section of the list.  The list may need some work to expand but not deletion surely.Shyamsunder (talk) 11:44, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge... to Bhopal in either the Culture or Places of interest sections. This topic does not need a separate article. Ideally there needs to be more accompanying content supporting each entries inclusion as both a place of interest in the city and also a tourist attraction. Ajf773 (talk) 09:02, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge.. in Bhopal or places of interest. —   B203GTB    (talk)  • 14:25, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge (and I mean this for the ones that follow as well) - Think of the person who is seeking information on things to see or visit in Bhopal/Agra/etc. Will they search under "List of ..." or "Bhopal"? Lists like this actually hide information, even though they may seem to be concise entries for a topic. (This is why in a library catalog this would have a heading like "Bhopal, tourism" - and, no, that isn't ideal either.) Lamona (talk) 02:02, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * There'll be more batches in a month. I try to PROD first. These are the ones that got dePRODed. Most of the PRODed ones got merged or deleted. There's a total of about 120 more articles to go. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 02:30, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Please consider merging yourself. While I agree that some of these are low quality or duplicative and should not be articles, I do not see much agreement that listing of tourist attractions as a concept is inapproprate. It's not unreasonable or original research at all to categorize something as an "attraction", and lack of hard inclusion/exclusion criteria is irrelevant to verifiability. Even if these are named in the title as for tourists, most of these lists have valid items about culture and history of a place that should be listed somewhere, with a renamed page or in the main article. Like, these are better than having separate subarticles for List of museums, List of historic sites, List of parks List of venues, etc. when a split is warranted. Deletion will rarely be better than a merge or redirect in these cases since the content has often been split from a main page. Reywas92Talk 15:21, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Can I do a merge and delete the old page without going through something like AFD? — rsjaffe 🗣️ 17:01, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You can merge and redirect without AFD, not delete, but you don't need to do that anyway in most of these cases. Reywas92Talk 06:17, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge with Bhopal: Information is better presented in context on the Bhopal page. Would also be happy with a redirect. Gusfriend (talk) 05:33, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge with Bhopal, without linking to any specific section as multiple targets exist. Violates WP:NOTGUIDE. Tayi Arajakate  Talk 09:59, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Merge with Bhopal. Knight Skywalker (talk) 09:46, 5 March 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.