Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of transfers of Serie A - 2007/2008 season (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete.. Avi 17:54, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

List of transfers of Serie A - 2007/2008 season

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Deletion from the prior AFD was overturned at deletion review because the article changed during the first discussion and the AFD discussion did not reflect this. Please look at the updated article and read both discussions before opining. I have no opinion, except that I don't want to see it again on deletion review. GRBerry 02:11, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Question. Is this article likely to be expanded during the next year? If yes, keep it.  If not, I'm not sure. YechielMan 03:29, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete for now At present there's only two entries. I'm not even convinced the Figo one technically occurs during the 2007/2008 season, but I could be wrong on that.  As for the other, the source states "Slovenian international striker Zlatko Dedič has left Parma FC to join Serie B side Frosinone Calcio on a free transfer, having previously agreed to make the move in the summer when his contract expired." which means he left in January 2007, which means it happened during the 2006/2007 season anyway.  So we're left with just Figo, and it seems a bit premature to have an article with one entry. One Night In Hackney 04:14, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Question: If it seems a bit premature to have an article with one entry, then how many verified transfers do you think are necessary before a real list could be written? Neier 12:39, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment, could we perhaps redirect it to the previous season? Then later on it can simply be re-editted as needed. Mathmo Talk 12:23, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete for multiple reasons: because Wikipedia is not a crystal ball (has this league started its 2007/2008 season?); because this is excessive detail, not relevant to understanding anything encyclopedic about Serie A or futbol/soccer in general; and because a "list" with one entry doesn't meet WP's list guidelines. I don't think a player transfer is ever encyclopedic, but a case could be made that the recent transfer of David Beckham was noted widely enough to pass WP:V.  To me that's still Wikinews, not Wikipedia content, but at least there's been published discussion of whether it heralds a new era of USA soccer being taken more seriously.  This list has no context that purports to show any significance.  Barno 18:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. Beckham was in La Liga, not Serie A. Mystache 01:33, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I didn't say that Beckham belongs on this list, but was using this example of a soccer-player transfer in general that might have notability. Barno 19:14, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, as I voted originally. I don't understand why WP:CRYSTAL is continuously brought up.  That's what got the original AFD overturned in the first place.  (Quoting from the Crystal Ball section: All articles about anticipated events must be verifiable, and the subject matter must be of sufficiently wide interest that it would merit an article if the event had already occurred.  Player transfers appear to be of sufficiently wide interest, per List of English football transfers 2006-07, and List of transfers of Serie A - 2006/2007 season and the single event already listed is verifiable, per the reference source.  Expectations that the list will grow do not seem outrageous, but, even if Figo was the only player to transfer in or out of a Serie A team this next season, that doesn't make the transfer any less or more notable (maybe more notable; but, that's a separate argument). Neier 12:39, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete unless sourced. As it happens, not entirely sure how it could be sourced. So possibly delete per WP:CRYSTAL. Addhoc 20:23, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Did you even READ the article and see that it is already sourced?? Neier 22:28, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - ok, that should be delete unless the article is expanded in a reliably sourced manner. Addhoc 22:57, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.