Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of tree species common to Cuba and Florida


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The result was   delete. Nja 247 08:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

List of tree species common to Cuba and Florida

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An arbitrary list of species common to two areas... seems to me to fail WP:NOTDIR. Vicenarian (T · C) 06:21, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete From what I gather, this was an attempt to find those trees that are in Category: Trees of Cuba and Category: Trees of Florida and then put them into a list.  It's a bad idea, and I'm not sure what type of context this could be put in (unless there was a Juan Pepita de Manzano running around).  Mandsford (talk) 14:00, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 15:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Cuba-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 15:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organisms-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 15:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
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 * Delete This is an exceptionally bad idea as precedent. We don't need a list of x that are in x and y. What's next, a list of insects common to New York and New Jersey? Hipocrite (talk) 16:49, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as unencyclopaedic. As Hipocrite points out, it sets a poor precedent for further articles. Eddie.willers (talk) 18:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth. I've just made the list/article a decent affair(the previous votes were prior to these changes). I've also put a Note on the Talk page of the article.(And I did Not know there was this Rescue Flag available: (Nice)(I used Google Scholar) (By Author)..Mmcannis (talk) 03:14, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I appreciate that you've added sourcing, but it's the topic that's the problem. A list of tree species common to place #1 and place #2 can have endless combinations (Cuba and Florida, Maui and Oahu, Great Britain and France, etc.).   Mandsford (talk) 14:24, 30 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Phytogeographically, Florida is extremely interesting as a transition zone between a temperate flora and a tropical flora. Since tropical floras are much richer than temperate floras, the places where they intersect are usually dominated by tropical elements.  Florida is different; the tropical elements are relatively recent (mostly within the last 5000 years) and have had to colonise the peninsula across water.  The major sources of colonists have been Cuba and the Bahamas.  While the Bahamas are low-lying and relatively young (and thus, relatively species-poor, and relatively low in endemic species), Cuba is very old geologically/topographically complex, which means that it is species rich, with a lot of endemics.  The issue of shared species between Cuba and Florida is phytogeographically interesting.  It has been addressed in the literature, although often in the broader context of relationships between the Yucatan, the Caribbean (especially the Greater Antilles) and south Florida.  It's also interesting to the wider public because of the cultural links between Cuba and Florida, and simply the general question of how the tropical elements got into south Florida.  I think there's a pretty strong case to keep this article...it isn't simply a random list of shared species between two random areas, as Hip and Eddie Willers would suggest.  It's an issue that's of interest both in terms of Caribbean phytogeography and in terms of the biogeography of south Florida, and it's certainly encyclopaedic.  Guettarda (talk) 15:22, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, just rename the article "Caribbean phytogeography" and nobody will notice it, let alone nominate it. Mandsford (talk) 01:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.