Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of true homonyms


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Content already exported. I can undelete somewhere outside mainspace if someone from wiktionary wants to work on tnis. Spartaz Humbug! 22:45, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

List of true homonyms

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WP:Listcruft, Reasons for deletion 6 (original research) and 14 (Not an indiscriminate collection) erc talk/contribs 20:48, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:59, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 12:25, 21 April 2020 (UTC)


 * 'Delete per nom and also WP:NOTDICT. Ajf773 (talk) 21:06, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Transwiki Article does not define what makes it a "true" homonym. Source lists more than 600 homonyms and it's not our place to just import that and their WP:DICTDEFs. Links are to wiktionary so this would be more appropriate there. Reywas92Talk 07:26, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The first edit when the article was created had it explained: Homonyms are words that are both spelled and pronounced the same, but have different meanings. Although technically incorrect, the word is also sometimes used to refer to words that are merely spelled the same, but pronounced differently.  If kept it should just be renamed to List of homonyms.   D r e a m Focus  13:31, 20 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. This is trivia and also listcruft. Reyk YO! 11:50, 21 April 2020 (UTC)


 * There are over 8000 homonyms. I'm thinking wiktionary could have a category for all relevant entries.   D r e a m Focus  12:07, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Transwiki It obviously isn't "fancruft" (fan of what, exactly?) and it is a useful article. Although somewhat ill defined (there are several different ways to define homonym.  The  article could use more sources, and should be improved.  We all know that it includes homographs (words that share the same spelling, regardless of pronunciation) or homophones. The definition mentioned in the article should also include words spelled differently and pronounced the same, the classic definition of homonym.  E.g., bier and beer.  WP:Not paper.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 12:21, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Fancruft? Who said anything about that? Not so big on accurately representing what other people say, are you? Reyk</b> <b style="color: Blue;">YO!</b> 15:38, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Listcruft. WP:listcruft Sorry.  Overreacting much? WP:AGF more honored in the breach?
 * It is a useful standalone list that does need to be further defined and/or refined. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * FWIW, I added four books to Further Reading. It looks like this would be a daunting list of words, based on the number of pages in those books.  Just saying ... Based on my research, I think we should dump the list (transwiki) and create or merge whatever list and references to homophones and homonyms articles. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:53, 21 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Transwiki There are too many homonyms in existence for Wikipedia to comfortably have an article with this title and scope. We should ping Wiktionary to see if anyone there wants to get involved with saving this data. I am !voting 'transwiki' because the article won't be immediately deleted and it will give time for someone to merge it elsewhere saving the list/work that has been done. --  Green  C  15:55, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yesterday I transwikied it to the list wiki at https://list.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_true_homonyms however searching online I see there are list at various places listing far more than this list does. Very easy to find if anyone was searching for them.  Can you copy and paste over everything there is from various websites, and then have a bot go through and read in each one, and find the proper wiktionary definition for that word and add in category:homonyms?  Otherwise I don't see how it'd be possible with so many thousands of entries to do.   D r e a m Focus  17:23, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The Wiktionary folks typically know a lot more than I do, I usually mess things up when trying to make entries. There is no category for homonyms which seems odd there might be a reason. Either way any bot work there would have to go through an approval process. Is there some place there we can ask assistance? -- Green  C  18:26, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I search around and found a place to post a question at wikt:Wiktionary:Information desk/2020/April  D r e a m Focus  18:50, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * They have a Category:English terms with homophones and Category:English heteronyms among others on the wiktionary that cover this information.  D r e a m Focus  21:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
 * This is why I get confused by linguistics. According to wikt:Wiktionary:Information_desk/2020/April there are two categories that "cover both senses of homonym" and they are Category:English terms with homophones and Category:English terms with multiple etymologies. But this article is about "true" homonym.. what is that? I suspect this article would fall under the "English terms with multiple etymologies" since that accurately describes the words on this page. "English terms with homophones" ie. words that are pronounced the same but spelled differently, are not the words on this page, I think. --  Green  C  14:23, 23 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:LISTN we keep lists that aide in navigation or provide information. Lightburst (talk) 20:48, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * All links direct to Wiktionary. This list does not belong in Wikipedia. Ajf773 (talk) 21:02, 22 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Transwiki or delete - it's just WP:LISTCRUFT on Wikipedia. Maybe on Wiktionary; I don't know much about that project, but it doesn't belong here. Ikjbagl (talk) 02:05, 27 April 2020 (UTC)


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