Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of vehicles in The Simpsons (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Deleted, unverifiable, original research, fancruft, unencyclopedic, you name it. -- Cyde Weys 04:25, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

List of vehicles in The Simpsons


Large, rambling, unreferenced list of individual cars drawn (sometimes in the background) into Simpsons episodes. These include individual jokes about real cars, fictional car gags, and selectable car models in Simpsons video games. Offers numerous uncited details about extremely minor vehicles in the series and spin-offs, none of which enable a reader to better understand the subject of The Simpsons. I don't see the use for such an article, which appears to be nothing more than cruft.

This is the article's second fourth nomination; the concerns expressed in the first deletion discussion seem to have been largely, if not completely, ignored.

Chris Griswold (  ☎  ☓  ) 01:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete This is the very definition of original research and total fancruft. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. There are wikis for Simpsons fans out there . Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a fan site. -- I sl a y So lo mo n  |  t a l k  02:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete per Islay. Mytildebang 02:11, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete I can't believe someone actually took the time to do this, hillarious. Waste of space, delete! Missvain 02:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep & Major hack and slash overhaul There is genuine encyclopedic information here, however there is also a lot of cruft. Someone needs to spend half an hour editing and refining the article. -- Librarianofages
 * Comment - What do you think is worth keeping? --Chris Griswold (  ☎  ☓  ) 02:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment If I had to draw a line in the sand I would say vehicles that are either significantly featured in multiple episodes of "The Simpsons", or vehicles that affect the plot of one or episodes of "The Simpsons". I would not like to see vehicles that were created merely to fill up space for the Simpson's games.  -- Librarianofages 02:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment How would those examples be any less original research? -- I sl a y So lo mo n  |  t a l k  02:41, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Pretty easily, just take a gander at any of the books/articles on the Simpsons. There's a fair section at my local bookstore. FrozenPurpleCube 05:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Well yes, I'm sure your local bookshop has a great many books that are part of the Simpsons franchise. (e.g. this and this). But reading them and conducting some sort of critical analysis would still be inescapably orignal research. I severally doubt you can find reliable sources that conduct such any analysis of motor vehicles in a television cartoon franchise and that could form the backbone of anything even approaching encyclopaedic content. -- I sl a y So lo mo n  |  t a l k  12:21, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete per islay.  •E l om i s•     02:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. MER-C 03:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep A lot of work went into this; it does need some cleanup (not to mention a link on the Simpsons main page to it, so people can find it), but I think it's worth an article.  P.B. Pilh e  t  /  Talk  04:02, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete & merge any relavent info to any Simpson games involving cars etc... - Who really cares about what vehicles there are??? Let's do shades of green used on orcs in the Lord of the Rings instead!!! Ahem.... Spawn Man 04:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep significantly featured vehicles and cleanup per Librarianofages. Seems like a search-worthy topic. Wavy G 05:37, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Significant vehicles in the show are notable, any others can be cleaned out. Don't make nominations to AfD just because you're unwilling to do so.  FrozenPurpleCube 05:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * PS, this is at least the fourth nomination of this article, see the article's talk page. FrozenPurpleCube 05:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

show, a television landmark but it doesn't need to have an article listing cars in it. What's next? List of houses in The Simpsons? --The Way 19:57, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per IslaySolomon. --Brad Beattie (talk) 06:00, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep and clean. --Psiphiorg 06:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Unnecessary, unencyclopedic, trivial listcruft/fancruft. The Simpsons is a great
 * Keep. I think even if this article is deleted, the information must be added to The Simpsons' article that it will become so long, so we'd better keep this article.-- Soroush ☺talk 12:00, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment OMG I cannot believe this is borderline at the moment, guys, read WP:NOT about Wikipedia not being an indescriminate collection of information, were it not for the limitations of paper encyclopedias, would you expect to see this article in Britannica even after 1000 years?  •E l om i s•     09:25, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete The article has had more than enough time to be cleaned up and cleaned out. IT hasn't been. It's still unencyclopedic and has too much OR for my taste. Any hard pertinent information can be merged into the main article about the Simpsons.-- Elaragirl  | | | | | | TalkundefinedCount 14:05, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT. I fail to see how any "clean up" of this article can make a list of the vehicles seen on The Simpsons encyclopedic. If the vehicles were somehow vitally important to the dynamic of the show, I might be convinced; but they're not, they're just the animated equivalent of props. Pure fancruft. JGardner 16:14, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. It's been nominated for deletion before, and kept because people said they'd clean it up. It hasn't been cleaned up. How much longer must this cruft be allowed to embarrass us and detract from Wikipedia's reputation as a serious encyclopedia? How many more chances must we give people to clean this up before we are allowed to admit that that is never going to happen, that this is an unsalvageable mess, and that it's better to have an empty purse than a purse filled with rotten garbage? &mdash; Haeleth Talk 17:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete This is a clearly not notable subject. What is next, list of animal appliances in the flintstones? This is just not encyclopedia material. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 17:32, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete even if we clean it up it will still be a indiscriminate collection of information. Whisp e ring 17:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete I love the Simpsons - and I appreciate that a lot of work has gone into this article - but this really belongs in a Simpsons wiki. -Kubigula (ave) 18:20, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete -- Kubigula is right. I'm usually on the inclusionist side of discussions, but this just goes over any sort of sensible line. Sorry. --Christofurio 21:24, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete because this is original research, witrh no sourcing. -- Whpq 22:05, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Indiscriminate list.  --humblefool&reg; 22:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete As a fan of the show I don't even find this article to be a point of special interest, in agreement with Kubigula, this content would certainly have a place in a Simpsons Wiki --Fittysix 23:12, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Original research & fancruft. ¿ςפקι Д Иτς! ☺ ☻ 00:25, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Are you serious? Next thing we know, we'll have List of shoes worn in The Simpsons.--WaltCip 01:19, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Or List of Lists that are Lists of Various Lists that list things in the Simpsons -- Elar  a  girl  Talk 21:37, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * With rare exceptions, shoes don't matter on the Simpsons (though there was a case where Lisa got some dancing shoes that would, IMHO, qualify for a spot in an article about the subject). That's an exception though.  However, I can think of at least seven episodes about vehicles in the Simpsons. (Homer's Snowplow, The Homer, Bart's racer, the Canyonero, the Monorail, the episode where the family goes to Italy, the RV...).  That's not even getting into the importance of regular vehicles in the series.  Sure, not every vehicle in the Simpsons deserves a place in this article, but many do.  FrozenPurpleCube 03:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, indiscriminate cruft to the extreme. ¡Ay, caramba! Extraordinary Machine 21:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - boring, boring, boring listcruft. Moreschi 21:48, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Extreme listcruft. 1ne 06:48, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per Haeleth, Elaragirl and JGardner, among others. Angus McLellan (Talk) 20:25, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment For any of the people concerned about this article containing indiscriminate information, well, what criteria would you suggest for inclusion on this list?  (Not that I think a vehicle appearing in the Simpsons's is indiscriminate, but I'd like some sort of feedback) FrozenPurpleCube 03:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.