Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of video game mascots


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Spartaz Humbug! 16:13, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

List of video game mascots

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This is mainly original research based upon personal opinions of what makes a mascot. The ones that can be sourced are very few in number. TTN (talk) 22:04, 16 September 2009 (UTC) *Delete/Categorize-ify - totally unworkable as a list. Delete it and make it into a category.--Blargh29 (talk) 05:26, 17 September 2009 (UTC) --Tothwolf (talk) 07:36, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete _ I might say keep if it was referenced but right now this article is in violation with WP:NOR, WP:RS, WP:N and maybe WP:HOAX. - Marcusmax  ( speak ) 22:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Probationary keep. I plan on working on this a bit, referencing the list with examples of reliable sources (ideally sources from the developers themselves). - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 23:47, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete upon further inspection, I am convinced that this information gives no value to the encyclopedia as category either. Delete.--Blargh29 (talk) 05:28, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Problem is there is a category: . If we axe the list should the cat take a dive too?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 07:00, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't understand your jive talking, but yes, the category should be sent on the midnight train to Georgia. "Video game mascot" is way too nebulous of an idea.--Blargh29 (talk) 16:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * As per my vote below, yes, the category should go too. "Video game mascot" is an undefined term and therefore a list (or category) that purports to state what is or is not a video game mascot is unhelpful and innately unverifiable. - DustFormsWords (talk) 06:36, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. MrKIA11 (talk) 11:23, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep if Retro Hippie can source most of it. or Merge it to List of mascots. We do need to better define what a "Video game mascot" is though. Does Charizard count as a mascot? " Charizard is also the version mascot of Pokémon Red and FireRed versions, and makes an appearance on the boxarts of Pokémon Stadium, Pokémon Ranger, Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team, and Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky. " Blake (Talk·Edits) 14:12, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep A legitimate spinoff from List of mascots, easily sourced as described by Blake, and well-organized table.   Articles about video games and characters on video games are also of "no value to the encyclopedia" in my opinion, but if we have to have such things, then we have to have a means of finding them as well.  Some people rely on categories to locate garbage, most people prefer lists to do so, but we usually have both WP:CLN.  The table is a legitimate navigational aid that does things that a category cannot.    Mandsford (talk) 16:07, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, video games do not have mascots; these are characters or brands. Abductive  (reasoning) 05:05, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - even for someone interested in researching video game characters, I'm not sure what value this brings. "Video game mascot" is a highly debatable undefined term. The article is a sublist of the total list of videogame characters which doesn't make it easier to understand the topic in any meaningful way.  There's no defined criteria for whether things belong on this list or not - there is, for example, no Videogame Mascots Authority to derive a list from, no "total sales achieved" number for characters to pass, no survey that ranks characters on how far they've penetrated the public awareness.  The current list often confuses the ideas of "furry anthropomorphic star of an unsuccessful mid 90s platforming game" with "main character of a popular game" and "main character of an ongoing franchise whose image is heavily used in promotional media".  It's just meaningless. - DustFormsWords (talk) 06:31, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. The problem is not that the topic is indiscriminant or trivial but rather that it is undefined in reliable sources.  Eluchil404 (talk) 07:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:CLN: "The grouping of articles by one method neither requires nor forbids the use of the other methods for the same informational grouping. Instead, each method of organizing information has its own advantages and disadvantages, and is applied for the most part independently of the other methods following the guidelines and standards that have evolved on Wikipedia for each of these systems"
 * WP:CLN is an editing guideline, and does not trump the WP:V policy, which this article fails. We cannot even verify that these are mascots, nor what mascots might mean in terms of video games. Abductive  (reasoning) 09:20, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I am sure that if this article stays, someone could dig around some places and find sources for each character saying they are a mascot. I just think the term needs to be defined. For example, Pikachu and Jigglypuff are mascots of the series, while Charizard is a mascot of 2 games and is on boxart of many many games and products. So, does Charizard qualify? Blake (Talk·Edits) 13:36, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.