Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of video games with female protagonists


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 07:08, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

List of video games with female protagonists

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This article fails its own criteria as described in the lead of the article. Why is there an article about female protagonists and not about male protagonists, or, say, other races, or people with brown hair? Is it encyclopedic? This was attempted to be made into a category, but failed because it was too specific, so why is there an article like this? I don't think the game's notability matters here - the article doesn't make any effort to state WHY having a female protagonist is notable except for an unsourced statement about being "an exception to the norm". Moreover, differentiating between "lead" protagonists and selectable protagonists seems impossible when they are at times closely interwtined. For example, fighting games might have multiple female protagonists, each with their own story - is this more notable than having a single female protagonist (e.g. Samus Aran) or having a female protagonist with the same plotline but with multiple minor differences and a different voice actress (e.g. Mass Effect)?ZXCVBNM (TALK) 22:41, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Delete and mostly because it's an indiscriminate list of titles of games, with no information other than that they would fall in the same category if there was one. As nominator notes correctly, there is no effort made to provide any context.  There is some significance in the trend, over the last 20 years, for games to have female characters.  Besides taking videogaming out of the realm of "boys only", it's not unusual for guys to select a female character in a game, particularly in those that involve fighting.  As the list illustrates, it's pretty common now.  Mandsford (talk) 00:16, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep A worthy list. Could be a worthy starting point for some interesting research of varying kinds. Ninjasaves (talk.stalk) 00:48, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 01:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 01:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as listcruft. This is a slippery slope like the nom stated. Niteshift36 (talk) 04:16, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. MrKIA11 (talk) 12:49, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Completely unsourced list about an arbitrary, non-notable topic. The same thing applies to the corresponding antagonists list, as well. Haipa Doragon (talk • contributions) 13:00, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete trivial and arbitrary. As noted, there is no difference between this and List of video games with protagonists with brown hair. Resolute 16:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Having a female protagonist in a video game is distinguishable from other criteria due to the notability of having a female protagonist as evidenced by sources making note of this such as, , and as small sample of what is out there.  -- Whpq (talk) 19:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete completely unnecessary and a trivial intersection point. The fact that Dora the Explorer and Tomb Raider are both on the same list says it all: They have nothing in common with each other at all besides the fact that Laura Croft and Dora are females. Tavix | Talk  20:47, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Trivial intersection point, with inclusion criteria that are aimed less at covering a noteworthy topic and more at gerrymandering a list with only thousands of possible entries instead of tens of thousands. Female video game protagonists or Female video game characters have some encyclopedic potential. This arbitrary and sprawling list does not. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 22:59, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete The subjects surrounding this (the portrayal of women in videogames, the rise of games featuring female protagonists) are certainly worthy of an article or articles, but this is a list and has nothing to do with approaching those topics properly. You don't cover a subject by listing every individual component of it, you do do that by finding the sources and writing an article, the list itself does not aid in that (WP:NOR). So, leaving that aside we have a navigational list pointing at games with nothing in common except they have female leads, which is borderline indiscriminate. Someoneanother 14:25, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep or perhaps categorify – serves as a nice complement to the Portrayal of women in video games article. MuZemike 16:37, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete this should be a category. BUC (talk) 18:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment It was made into a category and deleted, so that would be impossible.--ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Ostap 05:00, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.