Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of war veterans associated with neoconservativism


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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 06:13, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

List of war veterans associated with neoconservativism

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A half-hearted mini-list that serves no great encyclopedic value. And Adoil Descended (talk) 20:17, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Well that was quick. How many minutes do you allow for a stub to become whole-hearted? There has been substantial media focus on the conspicuous absence of war vets among the neocon movement. Thus it is valuable to the public to know those who have served. Sure, a list of notable neocons who have not served would be quite extensive, but that would be a little odd, no?Wormcast (talk) 20:28, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * It is a bit obvious that this article is not going to work, primarily because its basic concept seems to be making a political rather than an encyclopedic point. And it might make sense to remove John Bolton from the list, as he never participated in combat during a war. And Adoil Descended (talk) 20:38, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * One has only to serve in the armed forces to be considered a war veteran; participation in direct combat is not required. -Wormcast (talk) 00:08, 28 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Apart from the issues that there is no way this is an "encyclopedic", it opens the door to throw names into a category without asserting why it is notable to do so? (e.g. should there be a list article for all of the topics that veterans "associate with"?).  Chris  lk02  Chris Kreider 20:55, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The "associated with" phrasing of the title was based on the language appearing on the Neoconservativism page; i.e. "Notable people associated with neoconservativism". I am unopposed to altering the title to "Neocons who have served in the armed forces" to avoid your objection. -Wormcast (talk) 00:03, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete - per nom; based on list creator's comments, this list is politically motivated. If there has been "substantial media focus on the conspicuous absence of war vets among the neocon movement" than it would qualify for its own article. Compiling it as a list seems like a way of getting around WP:GNG. —Мандичка YO 😜 02:10, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Completely pointless and obviously going to be POV. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:07, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per WP:G3. Politically motivated, deliberately misleading, pointy article designed to make a political point by listing people with no combat service or who joined National Guard to avoid the Vietnam war. Colapeninsula (talk) 09:13, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete subject of this list fails WP:GNG. More importantly see WP:NOTSOAPBOX.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 05:43, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete We could just say "all of them."  But no. Per all of the above.  --DHeyward (talk) 09:48, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete the article and all redirects per WP:TNT and WP:SNOW. What a horrid mess. Bearian (talk) 16:00, 3 June 2015 (UTC)


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