Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of weapons in Perfect Dark


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Mailer Diablo 14:03, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

List of weapons in Perfect Dark
Gamecruft and game-guide. This article is unverified and unverifiable, there's no source for any of this information in this article, other than the implicit primary source, and the weapons of Perfect Dark are not widely discussed outside of how-to guides. Additionally, a great deal of this article is itself a how-to guide: the merits and flaws of various weapons are constantly touted.

Relevant precedent in other AFDs: two weapon lists for the Resident Evil series, a list of weapons in Cave Story, and a list of Pokémon attacks. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:30, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete see AfD debate on the list of Halo 2 weapons. Pascal.Tesson 05:19, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. Nifboy 06:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Core des at talk. o.o;; 07:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. I created this to move junk out of the main Perfect Dark article that people seemed attached to. But I'll be quite happy to see it go. Soo 08:11, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as per above. Dionyseus 09:12, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep if extremely pruned, per my halo 2 rationale: I'm as opposed to gamecruft as anyone else, I even listed for deletion practically wikipedia's entire orbiter game guide, but this article has a significant potential to exist as a collection of verifiable, non original research data. I'd think of it as analagous to a list of minor Star Wars droids or List of recurring robot characters from Futurama--every member of the list has verifiable data documenting its contribution, however minor, to the larger plot of a major, notable work, and knowledge of the individual members adds to an understanding of the greater work. The weapons of an FPS are surely as critical to it as the characters of a film like star wars, and being able to see what sort of weapon the "needler" is will help me understand halo in the same way knowing who 4-LOM or IG-88 refers to will help me understand star wars. We shouldn't be giving out gameplay tips, but a collated description of the weapons, referenced to sources like game guides and reviews, and limited to that content, is useful and not a mere indiscriminate collection of information.Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 11:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * True, but the current article is so far from that that you might as well start it from scratch. Soo 11:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete As Halo AFD above. -- GWO
 * Delete per precedent. Note that I would also support deleting the two other fancruft lists cited by Night Gyr; I understand Star Wars perfectly well, and I don't have a clue what a 4-LOM might be, nor do I imagine the knowledge would enhance my enjoyment of the film one whit. &mdash; Haeleth Talk 13:46, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Recury 18:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete I suppose. Batmanand | Talk 18:20, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as gamecruft. We don't need this level of detail. -- nae'blis (talk) 19:32, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment I saved a copy at http://www.wikiknowledge.net/wiki/index.php?title=TransWiki:List_of_weapons_in_Perfect_Dark Just FYI Gerard Foley 00:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, as Wikipedia is not a game strategy guide. And especially as a copy has been made to a more appropriate site for this information.  Proto ::  type  10:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom Bwithh 11:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. New technical specifications have been added, such as magazine capacity, rate of fire, etc; thus improving the article's value. Also, information on beta weapons & weapon glitches will soon be added. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.96.2.212 (talk • contribs).
 * Comment oddly enough, this last vote precisely defines gamecruft. Pascal.Tesson 04:29, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as gamecruft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RandyWang (talk • contribs)
 * Merge If you don't really want to keep it, then why not merge it with the main Perfect Dark article at least? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.96.3.40 (talk • contribs)
 * Delete per nom and gamecruft. Whispering 20:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete with no merge; there is far too much random junk here for an elegant addition to the main Perfect Dark article. --Cornflake pirate 10:20, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge I said keep on the Halo 2 weapons, but once you take the cruft out of this article, you realaly don't have enough to justify a separate article. This should be merged into Perfect Dark and severely trimmed. I've transwikied the full version to Encyclopedia Gamia. Ace of Sevens 23:35, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The main article is a Featured Article and could do without this kind of junk being dumped in it. Soo 10:27, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I didn't want it merged as is. I'm just sayign the weapons can be covered in the main article in an encyclopedic fashion.  If we delete the article and don't cover the weapons in the main article, we'll be leaving out one of the most distinctive parts of the game, its sheer variety of guns. Ace of Sevens 11:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * This article is so far from anything usable in the main article that it's not worth merging in any form. You might as well write something from scratch, although good luck sourcing it. Soo 05:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I suppose you're right. Mentioning that it has 40+ weapons and listing a couple of them should suffice for the main articles. Ace of Sevens 06:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.  o / s / p 13:09, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


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