Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of world club champions in association football (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  Ryan Postlethwaite See the mess I've created or let's have banter 23:40, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

List of world club champions in association football
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This article is WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. In addition, this deletion sets a precedent. MicroX (talk) 01:09, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:25, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete - Duplication of List of FIFA Club World Cup finals and List of Intercontinental Cup (football) winners. The title assumes that Intercontinental Cup winners were world champions, which is not accurate. Hack (talk) 02:41, 18 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree that this seems to be unnecessary duplication: the only alternative to deletion should be to fully merge in List of Intercontinental Cup (football) winners and List of FIFA Club World Cup finals. This seems less useful however so I'll say delete. Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 07:36, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - article is OR. GiantSnowman 10:14, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge: Originally, I would have !voted keep per WP:LISTPURP as a navigation list however as Hack points out, it is a copy of the Intercontinental Cup and club World Cup winners lists so any info should be merged into those if there is anything worth retrieving.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 11:29, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - Listing the histories of two competitions as though they were one competition is misleading to the reader. – PeeJay 13:23, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - As already mentioned, this information is already available at both List of FIFA Club World Cup finals and List of Intercontinental Cup (football) winners, and listing the two competitions as if they were the same is misleading.  DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) &#124; (talk to me) &#124; (What I've done)  15:40, 18 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment - Just to clarify, this is not original research as several FIFA documents (published in the previous proposal for delection) all Intercontinental Cup winners were considered "world champions" (and there was even an article published at FIFA.com before the 2005 Club World Cup edition that explicitly says so). If there is any discrepancy with respect to titles like that, you could do an accuracy where appropriate as was done in this article.
 * Obvious examples are the original research are this article, this and this one (the latter is also POV from the title that has), but no one is pronounced (perhaps because nobody cares or because very few read).--Dantetheperuvian (talk) 23:18, 19 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. Duplication of other articles and misleading. Walls of Jericho (talk) 23:04, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - I disagree with the delete-votes that say that it is SYNTH and OR, when you have this article from FIFA where the winners from the two other tournaments are combined. When FIFA considers the winners of two (three?) different tournaments as one group, there must be other reliable sources which does the same, which would make this list pass WP:LISTN. Yes, the information about the finals are duplicate from the other two lists, but you wont find the combined table in any of the other two lists. Mentoz86 (talk) 21:24, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge the lead section of this article as paragraph in Intercontinental Cup and Club World Cup articles since this list refers to "football club world champions" (just a symbolic title like "champions of England") and not "Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cup winners".--Dantetheperuvian (talk) 22:36, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.