Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of world three-cushion billiards champions


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. postdlf (talk) 18:15, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

List of world three-cushion billiards champions

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Article doesn't provide sufficient context for the tournament at hand. There is an article at UMB World Three-cushion Championship, which lists championships, but I am unsure how this is related to that.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:10, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep Redirect and Merge Meets WP:GNG.  No compliance with WP:Before.  Article can and should be expanded, but WP:Deletion is a Draconian and unwarranted result.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 13:43, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to UMB World Three-cushion Championship which has a full list of the official world champions. Allow recreation of this separate list if necesary to include pre-UMB champions, but no reason at the moment to keep the current highly inadequate list instead of sending people to the much better UMB article. Fram (talk) 14:02, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The issue is, the deletion prospect article, has sourced information regarding winners that are different from the target article. I have no idea if this is the same tournament at this stage. For instance, 1931 has Arthur Thurnblad winning, but the target has Enrique Miró winning (also sourced). 54 is listed as being won by Harold Worst, but the target has no such tournament existing. It's rather confusing, but as the article has no context, it's impossible to know what it is referring to.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:34, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. WP:BEFORE failure. Context can be added; that's just basic MOS:LEAD work. The key problem with the merge idea is that the list is inclusive of non-UMB titles. Now that we have sectional transclusion, we can actually make the UMB and BWCA lists be complete and appear in different articles as-needed, along with their citations. Another problem with merging this article out of existence or simply deleting it is that it would eliminate the encyclopedically useful comparison/contrast of different (BWCA and UMB) claimants to world-championship titles in the same year. This article isn't weird or faulty in any conceptual way, but standard operating procedure. Just needs some work.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  17:02, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per reasoning of SMcCandlish He thought it through and apparently know what he is talking about.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 17:48, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 11:17, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
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<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 13:06, 15 August 2018 (UTC) Ah yes. Relist it. Consensus was clear already, so relisting was unneeded. But I welcome additional comments and commentators. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 22:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)


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