Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of writers with beards


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Yes, alright, enough I think. For the official record, I don't have a beard. I note with surprise that List of monobrow figure skaters is still a redlink, though. Black Kite (t) (c) 22:40, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

List of writers with beards

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I just don't see how this article is relevant to any audience. Futher, it's probably nonsense/vandalism (Saddam Hussein is a writer?). Maybe CSD but I don't see which reason. :( &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 14:16, 22 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Saddam Hussein has written four novels and myriad poems. The bearded community deserves to know which writers they can call their own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tobermorybay (talk • contribs) 14:26, 22 June 2010 (UTC)  cf. Beard Liberation Front
 * Delete per nomination. Marx had a beard; Mark Twain had whiskers.  This is an essentially random collection, not at all like List of poets with warts. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:40, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
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 * It's a suggestive and informative list. Rather than being random, it is highly specific. If it is not to your personal taste or if you disagree with the criteria, why not improve it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tobermorybay (talk • contribs) 15:04, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Random intersection of two things. Hobit (talk) 15:19, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * That accusation could be levelled against countless extant Wikipedia pages e.g. List of LGBT writers or List of Indigenous Australian rules footballers. The fact that so many editors presume that the page is a joke only highlights the prejudicial ridicule attached to men who choose to wear beards. --137.222.14.132 (talk) 16:42, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * See WP:OTHERSTUFF. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 16:48, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not arguing for its inclusion on the basis of the existence of other articles, I'm merely questioning the accusation of 'randomness'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.222.14.132 (talk) 17:00, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom, this is just random list of people with beards which does not seem very notable. Derild  49  21  ☼  17:41, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  --  Beloved  Freak  18:33, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete; Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. This is a non-notable (yes, even random) intersection. We don't even have List of people with beards, so why writers? What does having a beard have to do with writing? "The fact that so many editors presume that the page is a joke only highlights the prejudicial ridicule attached to men who choose to wear beards. " - no one has really said it's a joke apart from the nominator, so that statement makes me more inclined to presume it was a joke in the first place.-- Beloved Freak  18:43, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * There has been a consistent strain of scoffing levity attached to this debate, to deny that would be absurd. All of the collected writers are extremely notable. When the article is gradually improved to contain chronologies and more intricate subdivisions it will be more useful for those interested in fashion, literary biography and discussions of ferality, masculinity, fundamentalism, gender and class which the habit of beard-wearing (or shaving, perhaps) has brought to light over the centuries. Consider Leo Tolstoy, who grew his beard longer as his political beliefs became more extreme and whose works return frequently to the trope of the beard, what it means, and the fear of having it torn off.--Tobermorybay (talk) 19:11, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Your account has edited only the nominated page and this discussion. How could this list be taken seriously? Please stop wasting our time. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 19:15, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I draw your attention to WP:ATTP--82.46.90.154 (talk) 19:25, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * WP:SPA. This really is a waste. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 19:26, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Mine isn't a SPA, it's simply a new one.--82.46.90.154 (talk) 19:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete As Belovedfreak notes, facial hair and writing ability have nothing to do with each other.  I'll be the first to come out and say that I believe that it was intended as a joke, either as a satire of oddly titled Wikipedia articles or a publicity stunt for "beard liberation".  I suppose it's possible that the author sincerely believes that there is "prejudicial ridicule attached to men who choose to wear beards".  Kind of fun on a miserably hot day, but it's run its course.  Mandsford 19:21, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Move to close this immediately and not wait seven days. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 19:23, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't understand how a list of bearded writers is supposed to be funny, nor do I understand the nominator's undemocratic urge to quash the freedom of discussion which the AfD panel rightly upholds. I believe the list to be of notable discursive potential and have seven days to defend my belief, please extend me that courtesy as I have received none so far.--82.46.90.154 (talk) 19:35, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per Wp:LISTCRUFT - how does having a beard make a writer notable? DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) &#124; (talk to me) &#124; (What I've done)  19:37, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Having a beard doesn't make a writer notable, but a beard can be a contribution to or symptom of that notability. From the angle of literary biography, facial hair is weighted with meaning; the understanding of adolescence, discrimination, wisdom, concealment, manhood and the image (in Emile Zola's words) of the 'Bête humaine' are all directions in which the discussion could expand. I strongly feel that the article is maintainable, expandable and intelligent; it is, in other words, not a frivolous undertaking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.46.90.154 (talk) 19:51, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: Speaking as a writer with a beard myself, I can confirm that the two characteristics are unconnected - I do occasionally shave, but it doesn't affect my writing at all ;-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep page This article was invaluable in confirming my suspicion that generic style was equitable with the tonsorial holdings of certain authors..  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.27.140.147 (talk) 22:08, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: the preceding !vote was left by an IP address which has made no other edits at the time of this writing. See WP:SPA.  Giftiger Wunsch   [TALK]  22:39, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.