Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Listowel Celtic F.C.


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The result was delete. Drmies (talk) 17:21, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Listowel Celtic F.C.

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Fails WP:FOOTYN. This is a club team in an local amateur league with no assertion of significance. — Cactus Writer (talk) 18:12, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
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 * -, playing in Premier A division of the Kerry District League is a clear claim of significance. A claim of significance need not amount to a statement that, if sourced, would establish notability. In fact, a claim of significance need not pass any of the general or specialized notability guidelines, such as general notability guideline and WP:NFOOTY. Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 19:29, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, Wikicology. "Credible claim of significance" is a tricky concept and can be difficult to pin down sometimes, but I disagree with your assessment. The entire Kerry District League is a local amateur club league and therefore teams within it are not inherently notable per longtime consensus at WP:FOOTYN. Notability for an amateur club team in a non-national league requires some credible assertion beyond just being in a league. The page offers no such assertion of significance -- in that, being a member of an amateur league by itself (regardless if the division is called "premier"or anything else) does not assert any significance. Similar to Articles for deletion/Spa Road F.C. or Articles for deletion/Classic F.C.. (I assume you have read WP:CCOS, but you may wish to review the entire essay, including the two-part test.) — Cactus Writer (talk) 20:04, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I probably do not have an idea of why you pointed me to an essay I'm very familiar with. That aside, I had said above that "a claim of significance need not amount to a statement that, if sourced, would establish notability". You seemed to be talking about passing WP:NFOOTY meanwhile, a claim of significance need not pass WP:NFOOTY. Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 20:38, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Delete fails WP:NFOOTY. Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 17:40, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. The above discussion on the exact semantics of "claim of significance" is irrelevant, because the relevant fact is that this is a local amateur team, with no notability in terms of Wikipedia's notability guidelines. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:43, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 14:27, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Current WP:FOOTY consensus is that clubs are notable only if they hagve participated in a national competition per WP:FOOTYN. No indication this club meets that standard, nor any indication of significant, non-routine coverage that would satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 16:15, 28 July 2015 (UTC)


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