Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lists of non-sovereign nations


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus and no indication any further input is forthcoming Star   Mississippi  02:09, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Lists of non-sovereign nations

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original research, see Articles for deletion/List of non-sovereign countries. Privybst (talk) 17:31, 26 September 2022 (UTC) WP:STRIKESOCK. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:27, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. Privybst (talk) 17:31, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete for same reason as the prior AfD. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 17:53, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep it's a disambiguation type list, pointing to other topics, nothing wrong with that. Oaktree b (talk) 18:42, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Are there relible sources that 'autonomist and secessionist movements' and 'unrecognized states' called 'non-sovereign nations'? Privybst (talk) 19:33, 26 September 2022 (UTC) WP:STRIKESOCK. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:27, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep A useful list for navigation. Regarding definitions, see Alagappa's "Definition of Nation, State and Nation-State" in "The Future of East Asia''(2017). I agree that it is not really a disambiguation page. It is as stated a list-of-lists page. See the essay Wikipedia:Lists of lists.
 * I do not see there the definition of non-sovereign nation. Privybst (talk) 21:21, 26 September 2022 (UTC) WP:STRIKESOCK. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:27, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * No it illustrates the difficulty in that definition process. --Bejnar (talk) 21:33, 26 September 2022 (UTC)


 * courtesy pings to Privybst (talk) 21:22, 26 September 2022 (UTC)  WP:STRIKESOCK. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:27, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 17:34, 3 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 19:15, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. If this is a WP:LISTOFLISTS, then per that essay it needs to follow WP:SAL, our guideline on standalone lists.  Which means it needs selection criteria that are unambiguous, objective, and supported by reliable sources.  I don't think we have that here, and per the logic of the previous AFD I find it difficult to see how it is possible to create one that isn't OR (and no, the woolly definition in Bejnar's source does not help).  If it is a WP:DAB, then per WP:D2D, Lists of non-sovereign nations is not reasonably a word or phrase on which a reader might search. Kahastok talk 18:45, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.