Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Literary and Scientific Society (Queen's University Belfast)


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The result was keep (non-adimin closure) — Hue Sat  Lum  00:08, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Literary and Scientific Society (Queen's University Belfast)

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Debate club that does not have any secondary sources. I could not locate any. --  Dennis The Tiger  (Rawr and stuff) 17:15, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
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 * As this is my first article, I wonder if you could provide me with some guidance as to the sources required? (User:Soignesqueegee) —Preceding undated comment added 16:36, 18 May 2012 (UTC).
 * There's some good advice at Verifiability. Two basic requirements are that they need to be independent of the club itself, and reliable.  For example, a paragraph or more in a professionally-published book, or a (non-student) newspaper article about the group would be good sources. Warofdreams talk 21:07, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Bob Purdie's Politics in the Streets looks to be a good source with a paragraph or two on the society. On the other hand, Armstrong's biography of founder E. L. Godkin only gives it a cursory mention, which might be useful as a reference, but doesn't help establish notability.  If there is a second good source, I'll support keeping the article. Warofdreams talk 21:14, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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 * I had been using three books on the history of the University for my article, but then I wouldn't be able to link them to anything online, should I just reference as normal? (For info I'd been using "Moody and Beckett,Queen's Belfast 1845 -1949 The History of a university, Faber and Faber, London 1959", "Brian Walker and Alf McCreavey (1994). Degrees of Excellence: The Story of Queen's, Belfast, 1845-1995. Belfast: Queen's University Belfast." and "Clarkson, L. A. (2004). A university in troubled times : Queen's Belfast, 1945 - 2000. Dublin [u.a.]: Four Courts Press. pp. 195" User:Soignesqueegee —Preceding undated comment added 19:04, 20 May 2012 (UTC).
 * Great, those are all potentially good sources. A University in troubled times is available in snippet view on Google Books.  The search doesn't turn anything up for this society in that book, although it's not 100% reliable.  Can you confirm that each of those books includes at least a paragraph on the society?  If so, I'll support keeping the article.  You can cite books in the same way as you cite online sources; there are examples in Citation templates.  Lots of different citation styles are accepted, so long they are clear and consistent within the article. Warofdreams talk 09:13, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I endorse user:Warofdreams' statement. I have no problems keeping the article if we can source it. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 04:35, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I have added some references from 'Degrees of Excellence' and 'A University in Troubled Times', if that helps? User:Soignesqueegee —Preceding undated comment added 08:01, 23 May 2012 (UTC).
 * Looks good to me. Warofdreams, what think ye? (By the way, Soidnesqueegee, use four tildes ( ~ ) when signing to add a date to your signature.) --
 * Keep - now has good references providing evidence of notability. Good work, Soignesqueegee! Warofdreams talk 09:51, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:02, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Sufficient here to establish past notability. --AJHingston (talk) 17:37, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
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