Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lithuanian Museum of Ancient Beekeeping


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The result was   Nomination withdrawn in light of sources found.. LibStar (talk) 00:33, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Lithuanian Museum of Ancient Beekeeping

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fails WP:ORG. nothing in gnews for English name. 1 gnews hit in Lithuanian. LibStar (talk) 01:38, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Appears to be a notable tourist attraction covered in multiple books.  Here is a feature article about it in The Baltic Times.  --Arxiloxos (talk) 02:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - Legit tourist attraction. Here's ONE MORE LINK... Carrite (talk) 03:52, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * is this a totally reliable source, seems to be a tourism guide website with advertising. LibStar (talk) 04:00, 14 April 2011 (UTC)


 * It's a tourist attraction, clearly. Here's the stubbish LINK to the page on the topic in the Lithuanian Wikipedia, for what it's worth... The existence is verified, not a joke page. Tag it for sources if it's needed... Carrite (talk) 04:32, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't doubt its existence I doubt its notability. LibStar (talk) 04:34, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Punching up the correct Lithuanian spelling on Google — Senovinės bitininkystės muziejus — generates a mass of hits — 9700 for the exact phrase. Carrite (talk) 04:36, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm wary of WP:GOOGLEHITS. LibStar (talk) 04:37, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * And I'm wary of deciding deletions on G-News hits... Carrite (talk) 04:40, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Here's kind of a nifty little PHOTO GALLERY... Carrite (talk) 04:48, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Some coverage of the Bee Museum in THIS TOURIST GUIDE in Lithuanian. Carrite (talk) 05:00, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

simply a tourist guide website, not really indepth coverage of museum history, achievements etc. the google translate below shows this. LibStar (talk) 08:45, 14 April 2011 (UTC) Musteika rural outskirts sunykusios Vacancies opened in ancient beekeeping Dzūkian barn and Museum, housed next to his 35 hives in apiary kelminių. You can taste the honey comb and see how ancient Residents of Dzūkija kopinėjo Bee. The establishment of the museum were collected and the newly constructed 25 different types for different times typical kelminiai beehives, ten figures carved on the hollow tree, made ​​of eight different types of old-fashioned log hives and Lentini. In eighteen of the most delicious honey bear species native bees. Who want to see a hollow tree, waiting for the Five miles in the heart of Cepkeliai marsh edge, ready wild beekeeping trail. Walking along this path - it is a great opportunity to admire the hollow pine, reminiscent of one of the oldest businesses in this region, only to see the characteristic angle Musteika Sand Hills and a small pelkučių mosaic
 * It looks like the Bee Museum is part of HIGHLAND NATIONAL PARK. Carrite (talk) 05:03, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Looks like a blog. LibStar (talk) 08:37, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * THIS ONE seems to be serious independent coverage of the Beekeeping Museum, in broken machine-translated English. Carrite (talk) 05:12, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * not independent at all] its source is the museum own website. see WP:PSTS. LibStar (talk) 08:40, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * THIS ONE seems to reiterate that the Beekeeping Museum is part of Highland National Park. A little bit of content here, it would seem... Claims it is "the only museum in Lithuania" — which I doubt meaning, apparently, the only one of its kind — but notes it has 6 buildings and about 500 artifacts. Carrite (talk) 05:17, 14 April 2011 (UTC) Last edit: Carrite (talk) 05:26, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Looks like a blog.LibStar (talk) 08:40, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Bottom line: there's plenty of potential sourcing out there, mostly in LIthuanian. Carrite (talk) 05:17, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

you've found a few unreliable sources, one blog and one translation of the museum's own site. LibStar (talk) 08:40, 14 April 2011 (UTC) Please add into article then. LibStar (talk) 05:19, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, this is not the improvement workshop, it's where we determine if an article topic is inclusion-worthy. This one passes muster, I do believe. Carrite (talk) 05:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * so if the article is kept, do you have any intention of adding in these sources? LibStar (talk) 08:36, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * No, not me. That's not the purpose of AfD. This is the corral where the sheep are separated from the goats. The sheep get sent back into the pasture and the goats get bonked in the head and made into goatburgers (See WP:NEEDSMORESALT.) If it makes you feel any better, I spent my day yesterday working on a new article started by somebody else... Today I want to work on something that I start. Carrite (talk) 14:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, come to think of it, it actually it makes better sense to eat the sheep and send the goats back, but that sort of screws up the metaphor, doesn't it? Carrite (talk) 14:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

These are far better sources than what Carrite found.LibStar (talk) 00:30, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. It has dedicated articles in three major LT newspapers: Lietuvos žinios, Lietuvos rytas , Delfi.lt . Also the Baltic Times as noted above, In Your Pocket City Guides , and a long piece published by the Estonian National Museum (in English) . In-depth coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources over several years = GNG met. Novickas (talk) 13:08, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Ačiū, draugas. Let's move along. Carrite (talk) 14:29, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Ačiū Jums, nors nėra už ką. (De nada) :) Novickas (talk) 21:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lithuania-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:42, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Museums and libraries-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:42, 14 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - After reading the article, and reading trough the discussion here. I find no apparent reason that would justify deletion.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:11, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.