Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Little T Learns to Share


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Split between merge and keep, and the nominator has been blocked as a sock. The merger discussion can be continued on the talk page.  Sandstein  08:14, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Little T Learns to Share

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Non-notable, self-published book PrelutskyChaos 49 (talk) 21:34, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:01, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep LA Times, NYT (brief mention), ESPN. There are probably a better three, but I think that demonstrates notability sufficiently. Failing that, merge to Owens' article is a no brainer since it's clear he is notable and the book is verifiable. Jclemens (talk) 23:42, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to Terrell Owens. The coverage in these sources is very thin, and derived openly from publishers' announcements. Books of this sort are notable because they are written by celebrities, not for their intrinsic value, and in this case the sources are all about the surprise value that this particular sportsman would produce a children's book. They are more about him than the book, in so far as the two can be separated. There is no value in having a separate article about the book.
 * And Comment if the article does survive, are we sure the Courtney Parker two whom the article wiki-links as co-author is actually the singer referred to in our article (of Oklahoma, living in Greece), and not the celebrity ghost-writer referred to by her publisher here and who attended the University of Texas and lives in Los Angeles? If we must have an article about the book, it might as well make a passing attempt at not misleading the reader. Elemimele (talk) 21:50, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge with Terrell Owens: Very sparse stub, in serious need of updating were it to remain. Is it truly Self Published? Author is notable, merge salvageable text and refs into that article 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:32, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Nominator has been sock-blocked. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 19:38, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Notability (books) says: "A book is presumed notable if it verifiably meets, through reliable sources, at least one of the following criteria:The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself. This can include published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries, bestseller lists, and reviews. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book." Selection of two sources:  The article notes: "The book, first in a promised series, is meant for kids ages 3 to 5. The story, told in rhyme, was written by Courtney Parker. The illustrations are by Todd Harris. ... The plot is simpler than a quarterback sneak, you should excuse the expression. Little T has a brand-new football, the laces white as snow. And everywhere that Little T goes, the ball is sure to go. But he refuses to let his friends, Tim and Sam, play with the ball. ... He heads home, plays alone, soon realizes that football is no fun if you have to throw the ball and catch it, too."  The book review notes: "This modern classic is called Little T Learns to Share (BenBella Books, Inc. $14.95), and it's by Terrell Owens "with Courtney Parker" and features illustrations by Todd Harris. ... After reading, "I don't think so, Sam - I'm sorry, Tim -I'mma have to turn ya'll down," it is clear that a great pedagogical mind and literary genius was at work here. If you are curious, the writing doesn't get much better, and even the illustrations are mediocre at best. There's more good news, too. The cover sports a bright red star advertising "First in the T.O.'s Timeouts Series.""  Additional sources:<ol> <li> The article notes: ""Little T Learns to Share" tells the story of a young boy who is reluctant to share his football with friends because he is afraid they will "mess it up," according to the book description on Amazon.com. Fortunately for Little T, he soon realizes that football that is truly one-on-one -- as in no other players -- isn't much of a game. His wise mother helps him salvage his friendships. He learns to enjoy sharing, and the rewards that come from playing fair. We have an entire series of children's books, titled "T.O.'s Time Out," to look forward to from Mr. Owens. It appears to be starting out modestly, enough. The first printing of "Little T Learns to Share" is just 10,000 copies, and the publisher will spend $20,000 to market the books to buyers. That's $2 per book to sell 24 pages that retail for $14.95."</li> <li> The article notes: "The often controversial Cowboys playmaker, who made headlines last week for what was determined to be an accidental overdose, will now release his first children's book – Little T Learns to Share. Dallas based publisher BenBella Books said it should hit bookstores in mid-November."</li> <li> The article notes: "On Tuesday morning, the Cowboys' most popular children's author, Terrell Owens, was reading to third- and fourth- graders at Woodland Springs Elementary in Keller. Owens' book, Little T Learns To Share, sold 10,000 copies last year and is in its second printing."</li> <li> The article notes: "The first offering from Owens, the Dallas Cowboys' talented wide receiver but highly volatile individual and behavioral-study dream subject, is expected to hit stores in mid-November. It will be entitled "Little T Learns to Share." Little T is the child character of the series whose adventures presumably will teach kids valuable life lessons."</li> <li> The article notes: "For $11.96 you can be the first on your block to order a copy of the bedtime story guaranteed to put your kid to sleep. And the best thing about "Little T Learns To Share" is that there are two more books still to come - "Little T Learns What Not To Say" and "Little T Learns To Say I'm Sorry.""</li> <li> The article notes: "I have not yet settled down to lose myself in Little T Learns to Share, but the fact that its author is the Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Terrell Owens would appear to mark it out as some kind of literary hoax, until his publisher confirms it is merely the first in a planned five-volume series for children. ... And so to Little T Learns to Share, which TO has authored in the true sporting sense of the word, given that he once snorted at the suggestion he had so much as read his own autobiography. I shan't insult you by reprinting some of his thoughts on the irrelevance of working as a team, but if Terrell can publish a child's manual on sharing, there is food for thought here for our finest literary agents, and you wouldn't give it very long before a slew of copycat volumes hits the shelves like Ben Thatcher's elbow on a grateful face."</li> <li> The short book review provides two sentences of coverage about the subject. The book review notes: "The authors relate a simple lesson about sharing and friendship in this rhyming book, with vibrant and fun pictures. This is the first book from the NFL player's T.O.'s Timeout series."</li> </ol></li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Little T Learns to Share to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 11:05, 24 February 2023 (UTC) </li></ul>
 * Keep It's significantly covered in a number of trusted publications. Not opposed to merging, but I think it warrants its own article by meeting WP:GNG. Justwatchmee (talk) 01:56, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to Terrell Owens for now. If substantial expansion of the subject occurs, then a discussion can be had about breaking it out again, but for the time being, this content will be most useful if contained in the parent article.  BD2412  T 06:06, 26 February 2023 (UTC)


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