Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Little White Lie (web series)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect to StarKid Productions.  Whenaxis  about talk contribs 01:11, 2 January 2012 (UTC) Non-admin closure.

Little White Lie (web series)

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no real notability shown for this youtube series. sourced by own page and passing mentions. lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. nothing satisfying WP:WEB. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:00, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. per nom. --Legis (talk - contribs) 09:51, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

I'd just like to note that this series was part of the Team StarKid Productions. If this page isn't notable, why is StarKid notable? --Muppet321 (talk) 03:46, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This series is not by StarKid and their notability is not the question here. duffbeerforme (talk) 06:26, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

This series may not have been written when StarKid was StarKid, but it was released under the StarKid banner. --Muppet321 (talk) 04:38, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * putting aside who made it, making one thing that is not notable does not make a group not notable if they are notable for something else. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:46, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:43, 15 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –MuZemike 23:12, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment. Just to throw my 2 cents in, notability of the creator does not automatically transfer to everything that he or she has created or had a hand in creating. (WP:NOTINHERITED) The biggie here is that to keep LWL, someone has to show that it is notable in and of itself, apart from the people who starred in or created it.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 04:59, 23 December 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79
 * Redirect to StarKid Productions. This does seem to be a very popular series but right now there just aren't enough sources to show that it's notable. I recommend merging the most important information about the series and redirecting, but I do think that it might be worth it for someone to userfy the information until enough reliable sources can be found. Really, it's the lack of reliable sources that really kill the article. There's definitely stuff out there, but it's all considered to be non-reliable because it's either put out by the creator of the series or by fans via blogs and their own websites. The two sources on the article that mentions LWL only does so briefly and predominantly focus on the series' creator rather than on the series, so they're really only trivial sources. (And facebook can't be used as a source at all, unfortunately.)Tokyogirl79 (talk) 05:08, 23 December 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79
 * Redirect as above, seeing as it's a potentially useful search term. Beyond that, whatever the alleged popularity of the series, YouTube hits aren't any more part of notability criteria as any other web hit.  No reliable sources have been proffered discussing the subject (not the creator, the production company or any other entity, but the subject) in the "significant detail" required by the GNG.  Ravenswing  10:53, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. There's a citation in the description on the top of the page that links to a comment on StarKid's website about Little White Lie. --Muppet321 (talk) 17:06, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply: ... which is irrelevant, since that site doesn't constitute an independent source. No one's suggesting that these web videos don't exist.  They just aren't notable.  Ravenswing  04:55, 24 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Redirect to StarKid Productions per the above rationales. Pol430  talk to me 16:40, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
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