Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Live Trax Vol. 1


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. consensus is there is no sourced content so nothing to merge. Spartaz Humbug! 06:35, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Live Trax Vol. 1

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No references of any type, and I have been unable to find any. Album is only available through band's website--not sold in stores or through other online sites. No indication of any notability as required by WP:MUSIC. I originally redirected this album to the discography page back in June, but the redirect was undone. I'm finally getting around to sending these to AfD, and will be bundling all of the Dave Matthew's Band Live Trax albums except one which did have enough reliable independent sources. As I bundle them, I will note any references that do appear in case people want to consider some of the albums independently. Also, note that sometimes references exist, but do nothing other than verify "At Local Stadium X, DMB played (review concert). This concert was recorded and will be available on the DMB website as Live Trax #X"--such references do not adequately meet WP:GNG. For each album, we should leave behind a redirect to the appropriate section of the Dave Matthews Band discography page. An alternative solution would be to try to write a single album on the Live Trax series, but I'm not sure if there is enough useful information that isn't already covered at the discography article; that can be done at any time even following successful redirection of these articles. Qwyrxian (talk) 04:06, 25 November 2011 (UTC) Following is a complete list of all articles bundled to this AfD, with any relevant notes:
 * — included "ref" is to band's own "Tour Almanac" site (not independent)
 * — incl. allmusic review (allmusic is often on the borderline as RS), and a deadlink to what may be a Rolling Stone review; this may just barely cross over to WP:GNG, but still not WP:MUSIC, so it is more debatable than the others.
 * — included "ref" is to band's own "Tour Almanac" site (not independent)
 * — both "refs" are to DMB wesbite (not independent)
 * — all references are to DMB website (not independent), Almanac (not independent), or a fan site (not RS)
 * — only ref is to DMB website (not independent)
 * — all refs are to DMB websites (not independente)
 * — both "refs" are to DMB wesbite (not independent)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 08:59, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * — both "refs" are to DMB wesbite (not independent)
 * — all references are to DMB website (not independent), Almanac (not independent), or a fan site (not RS)
 * — only ref is to DMB website (not independent)
 * — all refs are to DMB websites (not independente)
 * — both "refs" are to DMB wesbite (not independent)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 08:59, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * — only ref is to DMB website (not independent)
 * — all refs are to DMB websites (not independente)
 * — both "refs" are to DMB wesbite (not independent)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 08:59, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * — both "refs" are to DMB wesbite (not independent)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 08:59, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge I've got an embarrassingly large number of these albums, but I have to agree that they don't necessarily warrant individual articles for each album. I'd think an overview article for the Live Trax series could work well (and is what I'd prefer to see), but barring that, merging everything back to Dave Matthews Band discography would be fine too. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:11, 27 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge I feel these articles can be best represented by either one big Live Trax article or just merging into the discography article. I feel the problem with a Live Trax article would be people would try to add the list of songs on each of the albums making the article exceedingly long so it may be best to just keep it in the discography article. Bhall87Four Scoreand Seven 01:59, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd rather the Live Trax series get their own article if only because then what little actual content there currently is could be better merged; we'd have to be a bit vigilant to avoid track listings for all twenty-one albums, but it would be a better way to handle blocks of (sourced) information about each article, such as Live Trax 2008 (though I'll readily admit that the sources could be better). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:30, 1 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete all as lacking in-depth coverage by independent third party sources. If such sources are added to the article, feel free to ping my talk page. If we merge them all together there still won't be any refs. Redirect is possible, I guess. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:54, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete all: Since all the albums are just track listings and lacking in sources to pass WP:GNG. There is a lack of substantial information on the albums, so there is not a lot too merge. The discography already lists the albums and other info such as recording venues & dates. I'm not sure that track listings will be easy to merge into the discography page. It would be better to have an overview article on these albums but would still have trouble passing WP:GNG due to lack of sources. Mattg82 (talk) 23:55, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.