Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Live in Concert November 4th, 2001


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:30, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Live in Concert November 4th, 2001

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This is not meeting the Wikipedia criteria for a notable music album 1) No signifigant coverage 2) No "Reliable" sources 3) No secondary sources, Seems in violation of 9.1	Self-promotion and publicity Pussandboots (talk) 01:21, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:59, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:59, 7 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment Discussion page was never transcluded to a daily log page, and because nominator's removal of the REMOVE THIS TEMPLATE template was never reverted, the bots never picked this one up. Fixed now.  -- Finngall   talk  18:01, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. To be fair, there's no evidence that this was self-promotion by anybody — it's simply an article that was perfectly valid at one time, but our standards have tightened up since. When this was first created in 2005, our notability criteria for albums were a lot different than they are now: at that time, any band that was notable enough to have a Wikipedia article at all was automatically entitled to spin off a separate article for every album, with no requirement for the album to actually demonstrate any notability claim stronger than "was recorded by a notable band". But those aren't the standards that pertain today: an album now requires much stronger evidence of standalone notability as a separate topic from the band (e.g. charting on a notable record chart, winning or being nominated for a major music award, etc.), and simply being able to verify that it exists is no longer enough. I can fully support, defend and improve this band's studio albums without difficulty — but this, the pre-Love Tara demo cassettes and the EPs, not so much. And I was fanatical about Eric's Trip in their heyday — but the sources required to make this notable enough for a standalone article just aren't there. Bearcat (talk) 16:24, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree with Bearcat - while I disagree with the notion of the article being promotional (there's hardly any content present at all, let alone anything of a promotional nature) there doesn't seem to be any sources that help it meet the WP:GNG either. I'd reconsider if new sources are present, but usually low profile live albums like this, where it doesn't even really get much in the way of an actual name, don't get much coverage either. So it seems unlikely. Sergecross73   msg me  13:37, 11 August 2017 (UTC)


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