Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liverpool vs. Dinamo Bucharest (1983–84 European Cup semi-final)


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The result was delete and salt. BD2412 T 04:05, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Liverpool vs. Dinamo Bucharest (1983–84 European Cup semi-final)
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This article was recently deleted in 2018 ([see previous AFD]), and is still not notable despite it being recreated. The bulk of the sources come from player's autobiographies. There is a lack of independent sources from news outlets conferring a lasting notability of the match. It's no more relevant than any other semi-final that has taken place since or before. NapHit (talk) 15:36, 17 April 2020 (UTC)


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 * Delete per comments at previous AFD; article is impressive but it's all style and no substance, and I'm not convinced GNG is actually met. GiantSnowman 16:14, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete from me as well. More important matches don't have an article and I quite frankly haven't understood the point of this one specifically. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 20:02, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete The assumption that GNG isn't met is kinda stupid in my opinion, you can easily pass GNG on these types of articles. Other policies need to be pointed to like WP:ARTN which I pointed to last AfD! Also I felt last time and it wasn't done, but maybe this time we can merge a bit of the content too 1983–84 Liverpool F.C. season to improve that please. And far more importantly, there are sources here that can be used in other articles that need them for example FC Dinamo București and 1983–84 FC Dinamo București season has no sources what so ever for this subject part. Govvy (talk) 09:19, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm puzzled by the history here, and User:NapHit's comments where he notes that the article was recreated after an 2018 AFD. But the article was created in 2014, years before that AFD, and there's no indication in the log that it was ever deleted. Also, I don't see any attempt to contact the still active editor who created the article. Digging further, I can find two previous AFD discussions from 2011 (which I've added to the top), including a Salting. And an RFD as well. Without looking at the content, it all looks very deletable (and I haven't looked closely at that yet) - but without more time to dig in, I thought I should at least make a preliminary comment. Nfitz (talk) 21:48, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't understand that point either, as I spotted the same thing when I looked in the article history. I can't explain why the history shows the page was created in 2014, when there was an AFD concerning the page in 2018. Were there two separate articles on wiki in 2018? It should also be noted that the original editor of the page has two userpages detailing the match, here and here. Since there have been three previous AFDs that have come to a consensus of delete and one to redirect the article, it seems these backups could be used to create the article again whenever it's deleted. Is there a case for them to be deleted as well or not? NapHit (talk) 22:48, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Good question. I also found a DYK in 2013 for this article. Which begs the question of how an article deleted twice in 2011, and recreated in 2014, had a 2013 DYK. The answer is that there's a 2013 version of this article, that was redirected to 1984 European Cup Final per the outcome of the second 2011 AFD and protected - the history is here. And then there's the 2019 RfD discussion. Nfitz (talk) 01:12, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * First, does this qualify for WP:G4? Second, a slightly different title was salted in 2011, probably recommending salting here as well. SportingFlyer  T · C  04:15, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I think there's an argument that it does. NapHit (talk) 16:07, 20 April 2020 (UTC)


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