Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Livestrong wristband


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to  Livestrong Foundation. j⚛e deckertalk 20:39, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Livestrong wristband

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The only well-sourced facts in this article are about Lance Armstrong, the Lance Armstrong doping case, and the Livestrong Foundation. There are no cited facts about the wristbands, even though this is purportedly an article about the wristbands themselves. The wristbands have not been the subject of significant coverage. The wristbands are incidental to the vastly more notable subjects listed above. Or, in short, these yellow bands do not inherit notability from Armstrong, his Foundation, or the doping scandal, per WP:NOTINHERITED. Dennis Bratland (talk) 00:11, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment (talk) Do you not consider the price of each wristband,the symbolism behind the color, as well as the number of wristbands sold, facts? Also, I believe the doping scandal is an important aspect of the article because it provides background information of the person responsible for their creation. I think that we could add some substance to the article, but shouldn't delete it completely. If you think about how often these are seen on a daily basis, surely people will be curious enough to search what the wristbands are for. Adamh4 (talk) 21:58, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * So we need a whole separate article to say they sold 80 million wristbrands for a dollar each, and they're yellow like the yellow jersey? It's one sentence. And still, all three facts are unsourced. If anyone does track down the citations, they can go in some other article.If you have the sources to add substance to the article -- sources about the wristbands -- now is the time to identify them. You don't have to fix the article now, but if sources exist they're the only thing that can save the article from deletion. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 21:30, 20 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge to Livestrong Foundation. Andy Dingley (talk) 00:52, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:13, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:13, 19 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - Easily passes WP:GNG as it has been the subject of significant coverage including by CNN and USA Today way before the Amrstrong doping case. and others. .  Even the Arstrong doping articles give significant coverage to the wristbands.  WP:GNG does not require all coverage must come from articles only about the topic, but that significant coverage is given to them, even if the article is about a different topic.--Oakshade (talk) 06:59, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep per Oakshade—highly visible accessory which has spawned many imitators. --BDD (talk) 19:05, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That seems to depend on the assumption that the Livestrong was the first of the, now many, silicone wristbands. Is this really supportable and sourced? If so, I'd agree that keeping it as an independent article would be justified, but is this true? Andy Dingley (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * From the book Pride-Ferrell Foundations of Marketing - "A common adage holds that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and the yellow wristband campaign quickly spawned a host of imitators in support of other causes." --Oakshade (talk) 06:47, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Is it the first though? Or was the Livestrong silicone band itself copying another (possibly obscure) silicone campaign wristband? Andy Dingley (talk) 10:33, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 * There doesn't seem to be any source indicating that the Livestrong Wristband was a copy of another silicone wristband campaign. So far this (and another source ) point to this wristband being the one that sparked imitators.--Oakshade (talk) 16:06, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 * We actually have a whole separate article on gel bracelets which incorrectly suggests the Livestrong bands were the first silicone bracelets and mis-attributes this to the NYT. But importunately, the article descibes an urban legend that spread one year before the Livestrong bracelets, concerning teenagers wearing "sex bracelets" in Florida, Illinois, etc. Note that "jelly bracelets" were "First made popular by Madonna and other pop stars in the 1980s," twenty years before the Livestrong promotion.The idea that this fashion accessory traces its roots to Lance Armstrong is recentism. We really don't need gel bracelet and Livestrong wristband and Livestrong Foundation. What's the point of spreading such thin material so far and wide of so many articles? Not to mention Memorial Bracelets and POW bracelet; an even larger scale merge is probably appropriate. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 16:36, 26 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, slakr  \ talk / 08:36, 27 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge to Livestrong Foundation. The bracelets were a significant part of fund- and profile-raising for the Foundation, and the information here is reasonably well-sourced, but there's no need for separate articles as neither are long. Information on the wristband only makes sense in the context of the Foundation. Qwfp (talk) 17:36, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * obvious merge to Livestrong Foundation Mangoe (talk) 11:52, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge to Livestrong Foundation. The bands are not notable outside of their connection to the Foundation. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:00, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge to Livestrong Foundation, leaving a redirect. If somebody wants to start an article on the generic silicone wristband, that would probably clear the GNG bar. This is a needless fork, however. Carrite (talk) 00:42, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, by golly, there already is one... Carrite (talk) 00:43, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.