Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Living Water Christian School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 14:43, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Living Water Christian School

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The notion that every school that teaches any students under the US system who are in grades 10-12, and in any other system in a local equivalent similar level, is notable by default and as long as we can verrify it actual existed or once existed we should have an article on it, is just not sustainable. The once proposed exception that we limit this to schools that currently exist is just too presentist to justify. We need to move towards requiring at least some level of sourcing on all schools that is indepdent of the school, from a reliable source, and I would suggest we mandate that it be at least significant. This article is sourced only to the schools own website. The only other things I could find we sources that compile information on literally every schools that exists within a certain area. Wikipedia is not a directory or a buyers guide, we do not create comprehensive databases of all products, but that is essentially what most of the sources that list this school are. They exist because schools sell the product of education, although the money even for private schools like this does not often come directly from the consumers, but we have to see most of the sources that mention this institution as either buyers guides or as its own material on itself. This is not enough to justify an article. It is hard to tell for sure about this school, but there are many institutions that use the name school that are sponsored by churches that have primarily a religious purpose, even if they do engage in some non-religious curriculum. For example there is no evidence that I see that this institution is actually accredited by any governing body. I see no clear evidence that if this place operated in the same way on the college level it would pass our notability rules, that is because at the college level we actually require some level of accredidation to be considered default notable, at the high school level we do not demand any level of accredidation for reasons that many stem from the people who developed these rules not comprehending how many marginally to not at all accredited Christian schools existed in the US in even the 1990s, the phenomenon may have become more common since then. Not every indepdent Pentecostal Church that has 75 congregants is notable, and there is no reason to think that every time such a church includes at least 1 student between grades 9-12 in its educational outreach that automatically makes it notable. John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:47, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:58, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
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 * Comment Would you consider a more concise description of the subject and reason for deletion? You could then add the editorial stuff and other issues in a comment beneath it.  Right now it is very difficult to understand what the problem is and why the page should be deleted. Hyperion35 (talk) 18:24, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is drowning in druk but whenever I try to prop delete it other editors comes along and remove them without even trying to improve it. We need to stop letting people create such unsourced or sourced only to the subject website rubbish.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:18, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, here goes. This is a minor school with no existing sources that are indepdent and nothing at all indicating that it is in any way notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Google news shows a few reports (sports and Coronavirus cases) associated with a similarly named school in North Carolina, while a Google Books search brings up a range of directories of schools which don't have useful previews (so it isn't clear whether coverage is for this school, or if the coverage is significant enough to count for notability). A general web search didn't seem to bring up much in the way of significant coverage - mainly directory type entries.. I've yet to see much in the way of evidence that GNG is met for this subject, so leaning to Delete.Nigel Ish (talk) 16:03, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete for a lack of available WP:RS and a failure to meet WP:NSCHOOL. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 19:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect - to Rosenberg, Texas per WP:ATD and longstanding practice. 8.48.2.14 (talk) 20:41, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment -- We need some criteria for which high schools are notable. I would suggest that teaching to age 18 should be among the criteria, which this would fail.  We used to allow all High Schools, because it was impossible to stop their pupils creating articles about their own schools, but perhasp we can now be more discerning.  The article has no indication of the number of pupils.  Peterkingiron (talk) 20:43, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * So wait, we allowed all high school because we could not stop drek otherwise? That is a horrible way to set up precedent. We have things like verifiability and GNG that mean we should require relible indepdent sources at the least.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, because this doesn't even generate a second page of Google results, and I cannot find a single independent RS that is actually about the subject. I recognise the local consensus that schools are inherently notable even when there are no sources cited, albeit in defiance of NOTDIR, but in this case there are just... no sources. Guy (help! - typo?) 19:01, 21 April 2021 (UTC)


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