Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Living presidents of India


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  10:12, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Living presidents of India

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The article appears to contravene the WP:INDISCRIMINATE policy as well as the WP:GNG guideline, being a collection of random factoids without context. There are no sources indicating that "living presidents of India" is a topic of scholarly research or interest. In other words, the topic is not notable. Surtsicna (talk) 09:13, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Surtsicna (talk) 09:13, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Surtsicna (talk) 09:13, 14 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I don't think this list adds much value to the encyclopaedia (and not recommending this be kept) but this appears to be a common and accepted list for heads of state/heads of government -- Living presidents of the United States, Living presidents of Bolivia, Living prime ministers of New Zealand, Living prime ministers of the United Kingdom, Living prime ministers of India and so on. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  09:32, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * They are common because people see it done somewhere and make another such list elsewhere and nobody bothers to tackle them. They are certainly not accepted in the sense of having been approved in a discussion. We'll scrutinize each of those. Surtsicna (talk) 09:53, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I created this article, and I think that the major issue with this is sources. I have added some sources, and can add various other sources and scholarly research (if available). Also, we have these types of list for head of states for various nations (as pointed out). We do have a silly article on List of presidents of the United States with facial hair, and was nominated for deletion 4-5 times, but was kept as it had quite number of citations and notability in some sources. Seeing the number of lists relating to U.S. presidents, I guess this list should not be deleted. I'll try to make necessary changes. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 09:55, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Some crap existing does not mean other crap should exist. If living or bearded US presidents are of interest to scholars, so be it; but if living presidents of India are not a subject of "significant coverage in reliable sources", there is no reason for a standalone article on that topic. Which are living and which are not can be seen from the birth and death dates in the general list anyway. Surtsicna (talk) 10:00, 14 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete: Same for Living prime ministers of India.  Peter Ormond &#128172;  13:53, 14 August 2021 (UTC)


 * EDIT: Also, for Living presidents of the United States and Living vice presidents of the United States  Peter Ormond &#128172;  14:30, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi @ I have now added various citations to the article. With 30 citations from mostly reliable sources, I think the venerability part is not resolved. The major question for this nomination should be whether all the article titled "Living presidents/prime ministers of ...." are notable or not. If this will be deleted, I see no reason why Living presidents of the United States or Living vice presidents of the United States should not be deleted. Also, please let me know if there's any other thing that I can fix with this article.  Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 14:15, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:29, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  10:04, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. This list is clearly not notable and not needed on WP. However Living presidents of the United States and Living vice presidents of the United States need to be discussed in a separate deletion proposal, not deleted on the coat tails of this one. Bduke (talk) 00:58, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete There is nothing this covers of encyclopedic interest that isn't already covered in List of presidents of India; the rest is textbook WP:OR and clearly useless statscruft. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 23:00, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete To my eye, this is an WP:INDISCRIMINATE collection of statistics without context or explanation of significance, and as such WP:DELREASON (Any other content not suitable for an encyclopedia) applies. I don't see anything worth merging to List of presidents of India (though whether that article should transclude Template:Lifespan of each President of India could be discussed separately) and I don't think this title would make for a useful redirect. TompaDompa (talk) 01:53, 29 August 2021 (UTC)


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