Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lloyd Memorial High School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:04, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Lloyd Memorial High School

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While High schools are considered notable, this article is not about the high school but about the results of its football team. Not notable. Unsourced. noq (talk) 00:11, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Kentucky-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:18, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:19, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, rewrite. The nominator is correct that the current article is uninformative.  However, this can be easily fixed by recourse to the district's and school's official websites, and a Google News search turns up quite a bit about the school, including a 2001 article from the Kentucky edition of the Cincinnati Enquirer that gives a nice summary the history of the school and asserts, "In 1956, Lloyd High School made national news when it became one of the first schools in the country to desegregate. The integration went so smoothly the school was featured in a Life magazine article spotlighting its success."  I have to run out for some errands right now, so if someone else wants to take this information and re-do the article, that's great, otherwise I'll deal with it later; but there's no need to delete the article. --Arxiloxos (talk) 01:16, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I have effected a rewrite of the article per the above, keeping the useful infobox from the existing article, adding basic information and history with a couple of sources, and deleting the excessively detailed information about the football team's recent games. I think the article now qualifies as a clear keep under our usual standards for high schools. With respect to Mandsford's comments below, I don't see how it "rubs salt in the wound" to make use of the infobox prepared by the article's creator; it seems to me that a complete deletion of all of the editor's good faith efforts--even the valid ones--would be worse.  All the more so because it appears to me, from reviewing User talk:Tleejr, that this editor previously attempted to write an article that included information about the school's history, but fell afoul of WP:COPYVIO.  (By the way, I am uncertain if an image of the school's logo may be used in the infobox, as it is currently; if not, of course, that logo may need to be deleted.)--Arxiloxos (talk) 02:40, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you're right. User:Tleejr can still read his original article by clicking upon the article's history tab, an option that wouldn't have been available with an outright delete.  Mandsford 01:57, 11 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, Delete Good writing, bad topic. It's the first time contribution from a new editor who may be unfamiliar with the rules concerning notability.  Although I appreciate the effort that went into it, there are no high school football teams that are notable enough that their schedules and results can be hosted on Wikipedia.  Granted, there are tons of fan-created articles about college teams seasons, and an occasional attempt to create a shrine to every player on a college team, but allowing an article about the Lloyd High team's season would mean that we'd have to allow pages for every other high school sports team as well. I won't rub salt in the wound by suggesting that the contribution be rewritten about something else entirely; the information is organized well, even though the topic itself wouldn't qualify for its own article, and I encourage User:Teleejr to consider that format for other articles.  If someone else wants to write their own article called "Lloyd Memorial High School (Erlanger, Kentucky)" they can start from scratch.  Mandsford 01:42, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep - all high  schools are de facto  notable, only  primary  schools are deleted. This school  clearly asserts additional  notability according  to  a The Enquirer article (very  good source) about  an extremely  notable event. See: Articles for deletion/Common outcomes --Kudpung (talk) 04:05, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep High schools are presumed notable according to our guidelines, and Arxiloxos's rewrite should assuage any concerns about the article's contents. 28bytes (talk) 10:48, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per longstanding precedent, although in fairness to the nominator this was a terrible article at the time it was nominated. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  14:51, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep The article makes an explicit claim of notability, above and beyond our general consensus that secondary schools are inherently notable. Article needs expansion, not deletion. Alansohn (talk) 18:46, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep based on my standards, and on Arxiloxos's excellent job of fixing it. Bearian (talk) 00:00, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep All high schools are notable. Not sure if any of the 73 Google news results mentioning this high school would provide any notable coverage, but doesn't matter, since as I said, all high schools are notable.   D r e a m Focus  18:34, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: The article under discussion here has been flagged for rescue by the Article Rescue Squadron.  Snotty Wong   speak 23:19, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep per previous precedent regarding high schools and WP:SNOW. Snotty Wong   speak 23:19, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.