Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lloyd Montgomery Garmadon


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Withdrawn by nominator with no delete !votes. (non-admin closure) AleatoryPonderings (talk) 23:05, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Lloyd Montgomery Garmadon

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This page has one source, is filled with Wikia-style info such as personality and appearance, and the description about Lloyd on the “characters” section on the Ninjago page is sufficient enough. As somebody who really likes this show, I don’t think this page is written well for Wikipedia standards, or even for the character’s standard (he isn’t even referred to by his middle name that much, and there is no info at all about the movie) At this point, with all of its problems, the best thing to do is to delete the article. Unnamed anon (talk) 02:02, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2020 September 6.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 04:33, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:35, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Toughpigs (talk) 18:21, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. Toughpigs (talk) 18:21, 6 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep: Lloyd is the main character of a successful television and film franchise, and is discussed in reliable sources. "Dave Franco Cried Uncontrollably Filming The Lego Ninjago Movie" (CinemaBlend, 2017) discusses the voice actor's creative process, ditto "Dave Franco on Getting Heroic for The Lego Ninjago Movie" (Parade, 2017) and "Dave Franco brings creative flow to ‘LEGO Ninjago’" (Boston Herald, 2017). I agree with the nominator that the article is in very poor shape, but WP:ARTN says that notability is based on the subject, not the current condition of the article. The problems can be fixed through normal editing, taking out the unnecessary and unsourced content, adding more real-world information and renaming the page. It does not require deletion. — Toughpigs (talk) 18:32, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, this convinced me of a good reason to simply rewrite this page, rather than to delete it. I don’t have the time to rewrite it myself, but perhaps somebody who has seen more than the movie and the first 2 seasons can help me rewrite it? Also, I couldn’t find those sources myself when googling the character, so if content from the movie is added, those sources could be added as well? Thanks. Unnamed anon (talk) 21:17, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Cool; I can add a bit. If you want to withdraw the nomination, I think it helps if you say "withdraw" in bold. — Toughpigs (talk) 21:53, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 'Withdraw’ Unnamed anon (talk) 22:49, 6 September 2020 (UTC)


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