Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Localization (social movement)


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The result was   delete. even the keep votes acknowledge that there are severe problems with this and clear notability has not been established Spartaz Humbug! 20:16, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Localization (social movement)

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Localization as a social movement is a non-notable topic. This vague and confused attempt to argue the case through "premises" and tangentially related academic sources is just original synthesis and academic speculation. Johnfos (talk) 01:12, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, but massively cut back and rewrite. from a brief google search, i think this term has some social science use, and thus the term probably can be the core for an article, related to articles like "Think Globally, Act Locally", Globalocal, Back-to-the-land movement, Alter-globalization, Anti-globalization movement, Simple living, Degrowth, Downshifting, Ecological economics. damn we have a lot of these somewhat essay like articles, with poorly defined boundaries. Im not sure if i can remember what the most common term for this movement is. If this is the proper term, i think it is a highly notable social movement. this article, however, is obviously a piece of original research by wp standards, and really doesnt show notability. Some of it, however, may be sourceable and worth keeping here, and thus it may be too bold to simply blank and rewrite, which is my first impulse. I would like to see if someone can include this afd in some other forums, as i dont know how thats done without canvassing. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:14, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:03, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Week keep if rewritten per Gene. Note that the term "Localization" is used only twice in the article after the lead and definition section. This suggests to me the term is notable, but having read a lot of socmov literature, I don't think it is a common term. The article needs more inline cites, and should make it clear why most of it is related to localization. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 17:02, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'm not convinced anything should be kept, as social movements involve large-scale group action but there are no such groups identified in the article, and so there is no foundation for a page with this title. Johnfos (talk) 06:02, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think there is evidence for this being a social movement. ironically, the nature of the movement means there will not be large organizations involved, as its usually small local grass roots groups, each moving in a similar direction. having said that, i agree with piotrus, it needs more citations that this name is right, otherwise it may need a name change along with rewrite.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:46, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Let's get down to specifics and cut through some of the speculation. Could you please name some of the "local grass roots groups" you are referring to... thanks... Johnfos (talk) 08:20, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * hmm. for purposes of this articles notability, if i cannot come up with any local groups that would describe themselves as in line with this idea, then i wont be adding to its notability. im not sure im up for doing that. I know a lot of people do follow this idea, but im really not savvy enough about the subject to get good sources. The Ecology Center in Berkeley, CA, and their publication "Terrain", might count, but they arent that notable. sort of a catch 22. well, if this is deleted, it can always be recreated if i or someone else can find better sourcing. thanks for putting me on the spot, so to speak. wikismiles.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 21:43, 24 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete unless cleaned up. Stifle (talk) 09:51, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
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