Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Locus Award for Best Science Fiction Novel


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The result was keep per WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure) -- VersaceSpace  🌃 03:19, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Locus Award for Best Science Fiction Novel

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No evidence of any notability. All sources are own sources. Searches reveals very little beyond own sites and press release publishing. Appears to be a very niche award from a poorly publicised magazine. Fails WP:GNG  Velella  Velella Talk 10:47, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy and Awards.  Velella  Velella Talk  10:47, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 11:33, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a significant international award, and the description of Locus as "a poorly publicized magazine" is not correct. Newyorkbrad (talk) 12:09, 26 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep. Everything that Newyorkbrad said is true. Reasons to keep: 1. the magazine heavily publicizes the results of other awards' procedings; 2. locus publishes a well-circulated periodical and releases new short fiction, novelettes, and other stories by note-able contemporary science fiction and fantasy authors; 3. the results of the locus awards are followed by goodreads, worldwithoutend, macmillian, tor, uncanny, and others. not mainstream enough? "The winners of the Locus Awards, considered some of the most prestigious prizes in science fiction, fantasy and horror literature, were announced Saturday" a quote from the la times in 2018; 4. the magazine maintains active online presence the staff conducting reviews of new literature and interviews with award-winning authors; 5. publishers excitedly post when their works are nominated and win. many people like the authors or publishers even write on the front of the books "winner of Locus Award". like this: https://www.hachette.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/hbg-title-9781529346671-26.jpg?fit=440%2C675 if it wasn't note-able, why would they add it to the front covers of the books? Create a template (talk) 15:48, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment for a significant award, it is very difficult to find on-line and as for the magazine, that too is not an easy find. Having someone put an award on their dust-jacket is hardly more than a sales pitch. If an editor could produce some robust, reliable and truly independent sources, I might be convinced, but the above is just words,. Nothing more.  Velella  Velella Talk 16:02, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment for this significant award, it took less than 2 minutes to find an la times article describing its importance and as for the magazine, that too is easy to see that it's won 30 hugo awards during its run. You must need to see it in the NYT or the Atlantic or EW.com, slate.com to get satisfactorily assured. If an editor could levy a robust, reliable contestation of its lack of merit, I might be convince, but the above is just words. Nothing more. Create a template (talk)
 * Keep. I have updated the article with secondary sources – The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction sources the full list (except for 2022). Olivaw-Daneel (talk) 18:00, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep The Locus Awards are, with the Hugos and the Nebulas, the big awards for speculative fiction, and it makes sense to have separate pages for the different categories given the length of the lists. The winners are also independently wiki-notable, and so the list serves a valid navigational purpose. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 19:57, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep — Per . This is just way too obvious that no previous search was made before nominating. RB Talk to the Beans? 10:33, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a pretty major award in the sci-fi/speculative fiction world. A quick search shows that this is the spinoff award from the former "Best Novel" award, likely when they realized that there was a need for individual ones for the various genres that Locus covers as a whole. (That's more of an aside, though.) Now as far as sourcing goes, I will have to refer to a 2019 review by Ian Green in Nature Physics - a scientific journal - of The Calculating Stars: A Lady Astronaut Novel, which won the 2019 award. Green refers to how the book won a Hugo and a Nebula as well, referring to the awards as "three of the top awards in science fiction." If a noted scientific journal that does not typically deal in fiction is referring to the award as such, that is a sign of its notability. The list of awards is also covered in various different magazines and news outlets as well - given that this is one of the top awards, it makes sense to spin this out into its own article, especially given that it's been presented for over 40 years. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  16:16, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


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