Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loel Guinness


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:08, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Loel Guinness

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Purely procedural.Per 2017101010005881.Subject requires deletion.he would like to have a quit private life.......he no longer wants any information circulated on the Internet about him, he wants to live this retreat in anonymity......would like to be outside of all news.Editors are decided to judge the merits of the article and decide whether he is notable enough to sustain an article.Also, see WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE. Winged Blades of Godric On leave 13:14, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete He has a number of famous/notable descendants ancestors but notability is not inherited. There are a few passing mentions of his philanthropy, but no indepth coverage. I can't see how he passes WP:GNG. Theroadislong (talk) 13:24, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * He doesn't (AFAIK) have any descendants? Are you thinking of the right person here?
 * WP:N might not be inherited, but money is. Being a rich member of the Guinness clan does place one within a milieu where notability is very easily acquired.
 * The question here is whether WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE should be followed, as requested, or not. Is a member of the Guinness family WP:NOTPUBLICFIGURE?
 * I am puzzled by your content removals so far. You have removed material that is accurate and not derogatory (if we keep the article, we should keep it), yet left the specific piece of content that is complained of and only based on two poor quality sources. If anything goes, that should go first. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:52, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I removed details of his sister's husbands, I don't see how they have any relevance whatsoever to the article. Theroadislong (talk) 14:32, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Niarchos is supposed to have been a close friend and influence on his own philanthropy Andy Dingley (talk) 14:36, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Feel free to add back with any sources that mention it, the article is VERY poorly sourced at the moment. Theroadislong (talk) 14:41, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Agreed. And yet you're keeping the most problematic part of it? Andy Dingley (talk) 14:45, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Well it is sourced, unlike virtually everything else! Theroadislong (talk) 14:51, 10 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete Can't find much apart from this. . Domdeparis (talk) 16:01, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 07:25, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 07:25, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 07:25, 11 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - his mother was a "fashion icon" (unreferenced), he has ancestors, neither of these is enough for notability. There's no reason to keep him around as a punching bag.  Smallbones( smalltalk ) 19:23, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Notability is not inherited. Maproom (talk) 16:38, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Per all of the above.--SamHolt6 (talk) 18:01, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete when half the article is telling us who his various relatives were, we have no reason to think the person himself is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:02, 16 October 2017 (UTC)


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